Valero, Vargas and Pacquiao

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  1. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    early in his career, he did generate excitement, much more excitement than valero has i think.

    i followed his career a bit but true, he was knocked out cold. although i remember him sending tito down on the canvas if i am not mistaken.

    chill bro. was just analyzing the careers of this three slambang fighters. i think lesson here is that evolution is the key. pac was able to evolve as a fighter.

    vargas, not really and hence he went the route of the dinosaurs. as for valero, i really doubt if he will be able to evolve significantly.
     
    scatterbrain, Mar 20, 2009
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  2. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes he knocked down tito but you know tito he becomes better everytime he is knocked down.

    Valero's needs a career defining fight and pitalua definitely isn't one. Just like to point his not being able to fight in the US of A maybe a reason why his career is what it is right now.
     
    kadyo, Mar 20, 2009
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  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Totally understand man, Though I must admit that Pac is LEVELS above both of those guys and they don't even come close.
     
    Scar, Mar 20, 2009
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  4. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good valero failed to get a headstart due to the fact that he was not given a license to fight.
     
    scatterbrain, Mar 20, 2009
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  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Well he's got one now and he's been ranked #1 at 130 for quite awhile in a very good division anyway. Sometimes when you have brain surgery they don't give you a license ya know. Just a minor thing...lol..Even the president of the Phillipines (who is a doctor) checked him out when he was at Pac's B-day...lol..he's good to go now
     
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  6. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    oh what the ****. what the hell are you saying.:rofl:rofl:rofl

    the philippine president is a doctor alright, she has a doctorate in economics. she is not a doctor who does surgical procedures.:nut

    ****, jeff. i almost choked on my own tongue right there. what is wrong with you? please stay out of my thread. everytime you speak, the average IQ of this board plummets. please stay out.

    persona non grata.
     
    scatterbrain, Mar 20, 2009
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  7. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the president of the Phillipines is a doctor? :huh

    Man, you're becoming dumber everytime you post about the Philippines. LOL
     
    kadyo, Mar 20, 2009
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  8. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yup. read my post. i almost choked laughing. really, this guy never ceases to amaze me.
     
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  9. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and jeff said our president is a he.

    An IQ in the lower extreme gives a bad IQ average, which is not a correct representation of the whole. LOL
     
    kadyo, Mar 20, 2009
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  10. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good:good

    true. but if the three fighters, are both 23 years old now. just starting out in their careers, who would have thought that pac, who lost twice earlier in his career would outshine valero and vargas who early in their careers were undefeated.

    it just goes to show that being undefeated 22-0 or 25-0 does not really guarantee greatness.
     
    scatterbrain, Mar 20, 2009
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  11. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    at least I qualified my statement by saying 'everytime he posts about the Philippines'. Consuelo be bobo haha. Let's wait for his comeback.
     
    kadyo, Mar 20, 2009
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  12. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Well you never cease to amaze me with your insults. Doesn't matter. I was making a point that he's been checked and cleared by everyone, including all the best doctors in the states. You may not like it of course that Pac invited him to his B-day I guess.
     
    Jeff M, Mar 20, 2009
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  13. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    after a massive ownage like that, i would rather that he stay out. i want serious discussions involving pac, vargas and valero. not some blind nuthugging.
     
    scatterbrain, Mar 20, 2009
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  14. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    we are very welcoming of our guests and in fact, filipinos are known for their hospitality. i know he has been cleared to fight in texas although other states have not yet given him a license.

    and why inject the notion that i will not like it that pac invited him to his bday. a bit juvenile and clearly not related to the topic.

    pac has always been friends with his opponents except for JMM who always whines about the fight results.
     
    scatterbrain, Mar 20, 2009
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  15. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Henry Armstrong, arguably the best fighter of all time started at 1-3 then went and lost on his 16th bout BUT he became the only fighter to be a champion simoultaneously in 3 divisions during the time when there were only 8 divisions in boxing.
     
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