'Flyweight' head-to-head lists: 105, 108, 112 and 115 pounds

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  1. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    great thread.

    do you think Robert Quiroga and Danny Romero deserve to be there?
     
  2. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    like what fight? he was weight drained in his lost in thailand
     
  3. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    They wouldn't be too far away I wouldn't think. Romero in particular could cause some havoc with his punching ability, though skill wise he is a step behind those listed.
     
  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    oNE DAY SOON rOMAN gONZALEZ WILL BE SPOKEN OF IN THE SAME BREATH! (oops caps but at work so no time to change!!!)
     
  5. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He didn't look convincing in his fights with Hussein or Sanchez either, really, he didn't look anything special until he hit featherweight.

    It wasn't simply an issue of weight draining, he was simply not skilled enough as a flyweight to really cause the cream of the crop too much trouble.
     
  6. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    sanchez and hussein are fights at 122...fighters that are bigger than pac at 122
     
  7. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So Pac was weight drained as a flyweight and then too small for 122? Come on asero, you can't have it both ways mate.

    Pac simply wasn't near his peak. It wasn't that he was too small, it was that he was too raw.
     
  8. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    he was only weight drained in his last fight at 122...

    yes too small in his 122 fights but fairly strong at 112...he was not in his peak but he was able to KO sasakul in his hometown something that Yuri Arbachakov wasn't able to do...
     
  9. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Regarding strawweight:

    Could certainly put Rosendo Alvarez in the mix, because had Lopez not been around, he might have reigned for a while- or at least until he was no longer capable of making the weight.

    Possibly one could include Ivan Calderon, too. Maybe Niida and Porpaoin on a good day. Gonzalez might be the goods, too- although it's far to early to tell.
     
  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    what about Jose Antonio Aguirre was he any good?
     
  11. teeto

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    SS what about Pascual Perez
     
  12. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    agree with this post 100%
     
  13. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I left off all the fighters I hadn't seen at least half an hour of prime footage of, Teeto. I have seen snippets of prime Perez and I'm convinced of his talent, but I'd like to see a little bit more than what I've seen to get a really good idea of the man.
     
  14. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good calls Drew. Alvarez should be on the list at 105.
     
  15. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Can't see to much to argue with there sweet.

    I tend to faovur Wtanabe at 115.most of the other guys were on a similar level.had to seperate them really.Konadu thrashed Roman so decisively i'm not so sure i wouldn't pick him to beat the peak version as well.those clusters of right hands and great jabs are so hard to deal with if you can't discourage him.

    I'd have found a place for Espadas at Flyweight as well.Great smooth educated left-hand work and stylish, technically sound pressure\box-fighting work.the park fight hurts him, but overall i think he would fair about equally with contemporaries like Oguma if pitted against all the other fighters.

    Chitalada as well probably, though not a huge fan of him.Not sure fi you've watched much of him.

    It's another weightclass where it's tough to seperate the top ones.

    I'm a fan of Yuri and Accavallo but in two minds about their worth.arbachakov turned nearly every defence into 2-3 point life and death struggle, which while it may have been down to his own "do just enough" mentality and steadily declining physical abilities, should maybe hurt his head to head standing.

    accavallo was very good, but i've always seen him as something of a less skilled Davila.While very nice and tidy, i see him more as an overachiever than a head to head standout.Ebihara's poor pacing in the second fight against a fighter who was not at all physical reflects badly on him imo.

    Despite the dubious decisions, maybe Kingpetch could have got a spot?.He's another i'm not too sure on.