My P4P Top 10

Finally, a good answer. (Maybe something you should consider before drawing up p4p lists.)

 

Penalosa lost to Ponce de Leon at SBW and KO'd a weight-drained Gonzalez down at BW. From what I can remember Gonzalez was pretty much bossing that fight early doors, but then got hit by what was (fair play to him) a peach of a bodyshot. Not that I'm one for making bold statements/predictions but I suspect that Gonzalez would beat Penalosa nine times out of ten at SBW.

You have more of a point with guys like Caballero, Lopez, Gonzalez himself (who had a humdinger against Vasquez), a pre-Lopez Ponce de Leon, and even a current Ricardo Cordoba.

I personally had no problem with Vasquez and Marquez fighting each other three times........no problem at all:deal Although to be fair the lay-off afterwards has been excessively long, but they were hard fights and I wouldn't feel inclined to throw them off my personal list just yet.

 

Zsolt Erdei - WBO Champ - 11 defences - undefeated - 30-0 record.

I don't think those criteria are sufficient to be included as a pound for pound top 10, especially when, as is applicable to Abraham, the middleweight division is so weak.

I'm not convinced that Mosely merits a place either after beating Margo, I think Margarito's wins are discredited too much by that. I know I'm in the minority on that though.

And I would have Pac above JMM too.

I agree with most of it though and that Vasquez and Marquez deserve a place.:good

 

Gotcha! I dont have to agree with your rankings but i know where you're coming from...:good

 

Abraham doesn't belong on that list. I don't think Rafa Marquez is a top 10 fighter anymore. Cotto definately shouldn't be number 4. JMM is actually going to have to beat Pac(or hope Pac loses) in order to be ahead of him.

 

Please don't cry, little buddy! And forgive me for presuming you posted a list so the rest of us could provide an opinion and criticize it and for you then to defend it, not just to provide a written record of your feelings about your favorite fighters. I wish I could give you some candy to make you feel better...

 

I agree that Cotto should be above Mosely and I've made that point on other threads.

With Mosely the process seemed to be:

Cotto is #1 Welterweight
Margo beats Cotto so becomes #1
Mosely beats Margo, ditto.

Beore that Mosely had slipped off everyones list and now a lot of people just seem to remember that Mosely is the man without thinking how flawed the process by which he became so was.

I think we have to see him again before judging his current standing.

I would probably have Paul Wiliams in the top 10 before him, but as you said it is purely subjective.

 

You can call me an ******* as much as you want, little buddy. It won't make your list any better and it won't change the fact you don't know what you're talking about. But if it makes you feel better, you go for it. Excuse me now. I'm going to go talk boxing with the big boys.

 

If you base it on who has beaten who, then there's no reasonable argument to leave Hatton out of your top 10.

I wouldn't be heartbroken if Cotto, Mosley and Williams were in any order between the three of them on my list. They're all neck-to-neck, IMO, but the fact that Mosley more recently beat Margo (and Margo beat Cotto) puts him slightly ahead in my book.