Valero Sparring the Version of Morales that beat Pac!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jeff M, Mar 21, 2009.


  1. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    yeah he will go to a phone booth as Ponce De Leon and he will come out like Ricardo Lopez :nut
     
  2. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    This session was also after Valero had only fought 12 times which equals 12 total rounds professionally, ever!
     
  3. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    So Vitali over-takes him on the basis of beating a guy Wlad already beat?

    Alright whatever, but regardless, you think Bernard Hopkins, a now comfortable 170/175 lber, former 160lber, is going to take on a 245lb 6'6" heavyweight powerhouse, pretty much at his peak, and beat him?

    Give over, if anybody ever wants to see a record of your hilarious lack of boxing knowledge they only have to look at that thread or your woeful 9-8 record in Kirk's prediction thread.

    How could you of got 8 of the 17 fights wrong?
     
  4. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Okay you actually admit he can box. I put this up for everyone who says he is just a one-dimensional slugger with no skill.
     
  5. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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    So he can pull out a "marquez" in there?

    Marquez is one of the most talented fighter today, if not the most. and when he fought pac, it's a pretty even long evening of punishment. pac taking, marquez taking also.
     
  6. borj

    borj the Pacific Storm Full Member

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    he can box, im telling you. even ponce de leon can box

    it's just ridiculous when you say,valero is pac's worst nightmare:lol:
     
  7. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    actually, pac also has a boxer-puncher counter puncher mode too. just look at his last 3 fights. it was actually a compact left hook counter that KD'd jmm. we also know about pac's right hook counter which he uses against an opponent's left jab as well as throwing it in the backfoot when an opponent charges him.
     
  8. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    If you look at every fight I actually took the time to break-down, they went as I predicted almost exaclty. I don't exactly have time to do that always. At least I have a high KO percentage. :rasta I didn't know much about those fights I picked wrong and did not have enough time get in the "know" about them.
     
  9. FINITO

    FINITO Boxing Junkie banned

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    Laugh @ this foo who thinks SPARRING don't mean ****.. :lol: r u freakin kidding me? I mean jesus noviceness is just oozing out of you annd you're not trying to hide it either..

    Only people who would say such things are the ones who's never been inside a boxing ring or put on a glove in their whole entire life.. So ignorant..

    Remember how PIMP C used to say that to you Bladerunner? that u dont really understand boxing cuz youve never fought before??? Well im starting to believe that's true..

    And i thought u knew something all this time..:bart Logic goes out the window when you're talking about Valero and Linares.

    GO do some soul searching.
     
  10. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    He beat Marquez by a point though and then fought two dead men walking so it does not mean he could pull that off against a younger, prime fighter. He looked great, but I'm just saying.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Valero is abysmal. I even think his power is overrated. Anyone hyping him needs to watch the entire Mosquera fight, good punchers don't fight like Valero. It's all good being heavy handed but if you have no technique you're not going to trouble the Pac's, JMM's, Hell, even the David Diaz's and Pitalua's of this World.

    Mayorga is wild, but there's an extra toughness that makes him intimidating. Mosquera wobbled Valero at many points in the early going and dropped him too. Mosquera is a C+ fighter, nothing special, a top-class fighter without the extra edge.

    I'd be surprised if Valero could beat Katsidis, who is the most beatable out of the 'Elite' LW's (most of them have left or suffered recent losses IMO) and if he were to fight Pac, especially at the now mooted 140 lb limit (as Pac is going no lower after the Hatton fight according to Roach) then I think Valero's power will suffer even more and the 10% chance he has of winning the fight goes to 5%.

    He's a joker. People say, 'to the guys who think he has no technique watch him spar'!!! Well, to be honest, Morales look he was taking it easy on Valero.

    I'd love for him to prove me wrong because he's very watchable and always brings excitement, but I feel he'll struggle against any top-level boxer.
     
  12. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nice video, thanks. Hopefully Valero gets some good fights soon.
     
  13. TommyV

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    Spadafora beat up on Mayweather in sparring. What would happen in they fought for real? Mayweather humilate him and stop him inside 10 rounds. Likewise, Morales would beat the **** out of Valero if they fought and Morales was the version who fought and beat Pacquiao. Sparring means nothing because it's not a real fight. You don't fight with the same intensity, and you concentrate on specifics. And you've never boxed FINITO so don't go spurting that **** about anybody who's not boxed can't understand boxing. You've never boxed AND you don't understand boxing.
     
  14. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Valero would get K.O'd by JMM in about six rounds imo. Pac beating him in PTS is impressive enough, Marquez is an awesome fighter.
     
  15. FINITO

    FINITO Boxing Junkie banned

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    It's you mama's boy. Shouldn't u be watching some Sesame street at this time?

    It's true, Valero does have more skills than Pac but it's just that your eyes arent trained enough to see it.

    Learn the game first before you talk cuz you're sounding like a mental midget right now. :smooch