Valero Sparring the Version of Morales that beat Pac!

Marquez is pretty much prime, and he's a helluva lot better than Valero, and much worse stylistically for Pac.

 

Anyone who thinks sparring dont mean **** seriously are the ones who's never fought before.. FACT... That's the stupidest thing ive ever heard.. Sparring dont mean ****.. lol GTFO

 

Also, Linares, whilst skillful, would get beaten by Soto, Hell, even Roman Martinez or Nicky Cook would beat him, he just isn't that great. Well, he might be, but beating a way past it Larios and no one else doesn't convince me to be honest.

 

FINITO 101: when being owned, throw insults

 

So because Barrera said Valero would beat Pac that makes it true? Barrera had been sparring with Valero, so of course he'd say that. It's the same as Haye saying BJ Flores was going to dominate the CW division after he had been sparring him for the Maccarinelli fight, but he wouldn't beat the likes of Adamek or Cunningham or Guillermo Jones.

Pacquiao has also improved vastly. He's added extra dimensions to his game and he's much more varied. Mark my words, if Pacquiao ever fights Valero then Edwin will be out cold inside 3 rounds and in serious trouble. Like fleaman said, watch the Mosquera fight. Got put down and wobbled and troubled against a C+ class fighter.

 

lol and he's slowly but surely turning into a ******* nuthugger. Did u sense that too?

 

i cant believe someone is this dumb :rofl:rofl:rofl sparring is a good traing tool but just cause one fighter gets the better of other in a session that doesnt mean that would happen in a fight,Spadafora got the better of Mayweather in sparring do you think he would beat Floyd in a real fight?Calderon slapped DLH around in sparring do you think he would beat DLH in a real fight dumbass???

most of the times the guys that are sparring are in diferent stages of theyre preparation some are just starting training camp while others a weeks in to it.

you and your other aliases are the idiots that say that Valero has some great skills based on ****ing sparring session when everyone other than you and your two sidekicks can see the skills he has or the lack of it when hes actually fighting bums.

 

pac has been using that right hook counter since after the first morales fight. he's been steadily getting better using it since then.

 

I have sparred before. I've watched Boxing my whole life and box down the gym four times a week whilst working full-time. At my age it's not inconceivable that I could at least be a half-decent journeyman. I'd like to do at least that.

I've taken some heavy shots and dished some out. I've been dropped before, and I've been hurt whilst on my feet. I've also dropped others and hurt them too.

I haven't fought professionally, but no what it's like to fight. I know how much better top level fighters are, you can see it when they work out, when they spar, and when they FIGHT.

Valero shows me none of this. A better trainer (which he has now got apparently) will do some way to refine him. But he just doesn't have it. He isn't as great a puncher as people are making him out, even the untrained eye can see that :rofl

 

I see neither Jeff or Finito are answering my points.

 

so that means, pac beat marquez by a point and pac wouldn't win against valero.

so now valero>marquez.atsch