About Adamek-Dawson fight

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by qwertyz, Mar 22, 2009.


  1. qwertyz

    qwertyz Ready to rumble Full Member

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    Damn, this whole ignorance on this forum about this fight makes me pissed off, let me clear it up and explain why Adamek lost in such a bad way, cuz I've written it few times, but noone got it. Also fight like this, I mean the way, will NOT happen in at least 2-3 years.

    1. Adamek had problems with losing his weight and reach 175 lbs limit (therefore he moved to 200 lbs). He didn't tell it, well who would tell to the opponent about his own weakness. He's a natural CW. He's faster than in LHW, stronger and more experienced. Take a look at Cunningham fight - there Adamek didn't look as bad as in Dawson fight. USS and Bad Chad are similar fighters, their speed and flexibility, frequence of making punches are comparable. CW Adamek was doing well in the ring against Cunningham as opposed to his last fight in LHW and for sure will not look worse in Hopkins fight if it happens.

    2. In Adamek's corner and while he was preparing to Dawson fight there wasn't Andrzej Gmitruk, the coach who has been training him since his amateur career (also Golota was Gmitruk's boxer before AG moved to the USA). Who prepared Adamek to this fight ? Buddy McGirt - man who people on esbforum were laughing at, and now they are wondering why Adamek looked so bad. As you all know good preparation is necessary to fight at the best lvl. But Buddy couldn't help Adamek, changed his style. He couldn't give him any good advice during the fight. When there's Gmitruk in the gym and corner Adamek doesn't lose, at least has not lost yet. They know and trust each other, they make the tactic together which Tomasz uses during the fight. Was it bad against Banks ?

    Damn, so please guys, do not judge Adamek as a fighter who fought only Dawson and was outboxed, indeed. For God's sake... it was almost 2 years ago. Adamek's a CW champion now, Dawson fight was in LHW while Adamek wasn't as tough and experienced as he's now. Also he has fought 6 times since Dawson defeated him and all these 6 fights won. Guys, try to predict the attitude of him, by basing on his last 2-3 fights - it's more authoritative than supposing that next fight will look exactly the same as fight that took place 2 years from now.

    greetings and thanks that you read that,
     
  2. Kaki

    Kaki Guest

    Cunnignham's style is nothing like Dawson's. Watch the two fights again.

    Read around here, notice that people give less credit than due to Dawson for beating Adamek in such a dominant fashion.
     
  3. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd agree with this.

    As well, Adamek gets plenty of respect around here, I'd say.

    The threadstarter's point about Buddy is well taken, though! Nothing rights a ship like tossing Buddy overboard!
     
  4. qwertyz

    qwertyz Ready to rumble Full Member

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    Damn, many posts that have appeared in threads about Hopkins-Adamek fight show that so many people don't appreciate him so much. One dude said that Hopkins can't be a no.1 p4p after beating a guy who was outboxed by Dawson, it's not a first time when I saw such a post. Many people don't know or don't realise the reason of Adamek's loss. There were not just boxing valours in the ring, but many things that happend before the fight started, that's the worst thing in it. Adamek is not a worse boxer than Dawson !

    Imo, Dawson and Cunningham are similar boxer with almost equal skills, that's my opinion.
     
  5. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He got knocked down late by Adamek, I think some may believe that Adamek was beginning to solve the puzzle. However, it was shocking how one sided that fight was for the majority of it. Adamek didn't seem weight drained or fatigued if I remember correctly, just completely bewildered, he had no answers of any kind for the majority of the fight.

    Many are trying to turn Dawson into some sort of Legend way before he has earned the right.

    I agree that Adamek's talents should not be dismissed based on this one performance. He is a solid, high level fighter and continues to entertain. I am looking forward to his next fights at cruiser.
     
  6. Wiesiek

    Wiesiek Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Adamek was drained in that fight similiar to Abraham, when he fought last time vs(i forgot the name samuel? or somethin) 2bad adamek had worldclass oponnent cuz hesnot picking 0power bums like some of other "champions"
     
  7. andyZOR

    andyZOR Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Gmitruk is really a underrated trainer but thats mostly cause hes not that well known. Hes a great trainer.

    Adameks biggest mistakes were having Buddy and that snob Radoslaw Konder in his corner.
     
  8. Kaki

    Kaki Guest

    Agreed.
     
  9. rickx1

    rickx1 Legend Full Member

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    Soon dawsons china chin will crumble if he faces a guy who can hit.
     
  10. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dawson= Adamek's daddy. He spanked that pole and there's no legitimate argument for a rematch, Adamek was totally and completely outclassed from the get go. Adamek owes Steve USS Cunningham a rematch. Cunningham could win if he doesn't abandon his gameplan and trade punches with the harder puncher (adamek) like he did last time. Besides the rounds Cunningham was knocked down in, he won every other round of the fight and was even winning 2 of the rounds he got knocked down in before the knockdowns.
     
  11. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :patsch yeah cause Adamek and Johnson don't have any power :roll:
     
  12. qwertyz

    qwertyz Ready to rumble Full Member

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    You're just a hater, dude. You're not objective. How the **** you can say that Adamek lost every round beside rounds that he knocked Cunningham down. 3 knock downs don't win the fight :nono It seems you've got some problem to Adamek, dunno why but I felt a bit of racism. Anyway ... that's your right to write what you think.
     
  13. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :patsch
     
  14. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Despite all these reasons, i say the biggest reason for Adamek's loss then was Dawson himself. You can say he struggled with weight , but I didn't hear any of this when he was winning wars against Briggs and flooring Ulrich. Buddy was with Adamek when he fought Briggs the second time and yet Adamek still had success and no one was bitching. And about Adamek being an obvious natural at CW - I recall that the majority of the people including his fans, thought he was insane to make such a large jump in weight and and were sceptical about his chances there. I guess he proved most of us wrong on that point.
    In any event, there is a reason why most people consider Steve Cunningham to be a poor man's version of Chad Dawson. Dawson has his defensive and concentration flaws and he fights in spurts, but he is one of the most technically gifted boxers in the sport today. I think we badly need to see Adamek rematch Dawson, preferably at CW to see who the better boxer is at the weight. If Adamek wins against Hopkins, I think this fight is inevitable as Dawson will be looking to cash in his reputation on a mega fight and will need a post-Hopkins Adamek to make that happen.
     
  15. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For starters, you discredit yourself right away when you say that Adamek lost every round in which he didn't score a KD. It would be illogical for Adamek to win an SD decission, had he only won 3 out of 12 rounds. And why would you ever ask anyone to disregard a knock down as if it never happened, let alone 3 of them? KD's indicate who the stronger puncher is are a part of boxing and one aspect of deciding who the better fighter is. Deal with it.
    Secondly, as soon as Adamek had a whisper of life against Dawson he floored him, so a rematch is inrtiguing and will happen for the simple reason that since that fight, Adamek has gathered more momentum, popularity and respect than Dawson, who is slowly gaining a rep. for being a ducker.