'I Can Whip Any Mechanical Robot' by Jack Dempsey

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  1. janitor

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    I honestly think that Dempsey was as much a thinking fighter as Gene Tunney.

    Just cut from a diferent cloth.
     
  2. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's very true.

    It probably played a big part in their friendship, although Dempsey was more down to earth and made for a more refreshing read.
     
  3. Maxmomer

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    When Skynet launches the first wave the world will lament the loss of Jack Dempsey.
     
  4. COULDHAVEBEEN

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    Many things from 1934 look rediculous by todays hi-tech standards. It wouldn't have seemed too silly back then.
     
  5. Suge Green

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    Dempsey can add prophet too his resume. He saw the future of boxing involved robots. Evidently, they will end up in a trash heap sometime in the future. :yep
     
  6. Arka

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    I always assumed that "Championsip Fighting" was ghost written.
    How much of the book,in fact, represented Dempsey's actual training philosophy?
     
  7. janitor

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    I never thought that it might be ghost written but its style is consistent with Dempseys other writings.

    Verry thought provoking but at the same time it is obvious that the authour is not a man you would want to take liberties with.
     
  8. Arka

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    A style may be imitated or a voice mimicked. :D In my mind a professional writer almost certainly had the biggest part in the writing of Championship Fighting.The question,in my mind,is the degree of Jack's input. Was this just a generic boxing manual modified to fit Dempsey's scattered pronouncements on boxing , written in his voice and given a seal of approval by people acting in Jack's interests ? It's a possibility.....

    Anyway,I've read the book a few times and think highly of it,whoever the actual source of the information was.
     
  9. janitor

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    Put it this way.

    If Dempsey had a ghost writer he used the same one for everything.
     
  10. dpw417

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    Good answer...Cheers Janitor.
     
  11. Maxmomer

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    For every book article and quote. I don't find that likely.
     
  12. Arka

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    I'm talking about the book. :D

    How do you determine whether something is or is not ghost written anyway?
    I think Phil Berger did a good job of bring across Joe Frazier's speech mannerisms and general attitudes in the latter's autobiography.

    Apparently a Mr Gene Fowler was the goto man for newpapers,when they were in need of a quote or article from Jim Corbett.
    http://books.google.com/books?id=sk...ts=0o3Ip48Yf3&sig=-qbeNLU_T0bMeUnudMPhTIPdSSg
     
  13. Arka

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    Heres a very interesting quote,I just found! :D

    Jack Dempsey watched Johansson work out and could summon only an uncommunicative mumble afterward: Dempsey picked Patterson. And the day after the fight, with a burst of humor mixed with honest anguish, Dempsey remarked:
    "I really liked Johansson but my ghostwriter would not let me say so". :lol:

    http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1070706/index.htm

    He was probably joking,but still....

    edit: Apparently Dempsey's training book was edited by a Jack Cuddy and illustrated by Ed Igoe.
    Who is Jack Cuddy?
     
  14. Jack Dempsey

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  15. Arka

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    Did Cuddy come up with Louis' sobriquet "The Brown Bomber" ? :think