Which ATG do you think does the worst head to head overall?

In that vein, Spink's at heavyweight.

 

oscar de la hoya at 147

 

I agree.

 

I don't think Marciano does well head to head against most other great and all-time great heavyweights.

 

I do not care what you say, I still take him over Billy Backus!

 

What level do you put him at Mc?

I dont see him touching Robinson...nor Leonard more often then not but he proved very difficult in that fight nonetheless.

Napoles probably gets him..but I think with the skill, speed, size and power of Hearns there is every chance he busts Jose up.

After those guys I dont think many could beat him, not convincingly anyway...with the better, big punchers always having a decent chance.

 

With Jack Johnson's style I think that most greats that are his size that have a good jab and good footwork would beat him.

 

There seems to be a growing concencus here that George Foreman was the best runner up for the award of worst head to head. Needless to say, I disagree. A man with the highest Win/KO percentage and highly destructive wins over Frazier, Norton, Lyle and Moorer does not warrant receiving such a title. Yes, he had some stylistic deficiencies, but Christ I'd pick him to anialate a lot of greats head to head, while troubling plenty of others.

If one was looking for a candidate to be the least effective in head to head matches, they should probably have to look no further than Floyd Patterson. Yes, Floyd was a great fighter and one that I highly respect for a lot of different reasons. But when Sized up to most greats, I fear he does poorly. Patterson was too highly prone to getting decked by a wide spectrum of different fighters and this even included a debuting professional in a world title defense. He was nothing for Sonny Liston in both of their fights and was badly beaten by Ingo who at the time was viewed by most as nobody.

 

Johnson

 

Hearns was at his best head to head at Welter imo.His power was at its best there and it was at that weight he had awesome physical advantages.

as a small 154 middleweight he's not going to have as much success against the real elites at middleweight.that lack of real defence is a much bigger weakness there.

 

He'd put a whupping on a fair few. :yep

 

I think you've made a good argument for not making him an ATG. Floyd that is.