Maccarinelli to split from Team Calzaghe ?

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  1. kieron

    kieron Active Member Full Member

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    I think a move to the US would be the best thing for him. Much better quality sparring would be the key. I've said it before and I'll say it again, he'll never make light-heavy in a month of sundays. Where would he lose 2 stone from? He would be depleted to **** and it's a pointless excercise as his power and stamina would be drained away.
     
  2. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Stamina?
     
  3. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    They train fighters to be more pressure and agression than defence.

    Enzo C did get Enzo Mac to use his jab and range more at first but they both messed up the Ola fight. Enzo C isn't the best trainer but he's not as bad as made out, for the experiance he has he ain't bad. Mac still needs a new trainer though.
     
  4. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would worry seeing how badly Enzo was slurring his words after the KO by a non-puncher. I think Haye permanently damaged him with that final flurry when Macca was tumbling against the ropes. It seems to have sapped all his punch resistance and confidence.

    He looked dreadful from the opening rounds - he was winning but always looked like he couldn't figure out what to do.

    Anyway, you ask why he didn't stand at mid-range? Cause he kept getting clipped by his opponent and he was feeling it everytime. He hoped by being in close that he could smother the other guy's work. Alas...

    I agree with Jeff, he needs a trainer to help him develop and inside game. Some uppercuts could have made all the difference.
     
  5. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    I think it would be a good idea.
     
  6. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    I dont think he would move to the US - just cos I dont think it would be worth it.

    Now he has been knocked down to British / Euro level after that loss - whats the point going the other side of the world then coming back to Britain just to fight a non title fight 10 rounder for a average purse.

    I think he is more likely to retire than move to the USA.

    London or Manchester are more realistic options.
     
  7. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I agree. Your talking about a fighter that thinks he is a world champion. Deposed or otherwise. This isn't some guy just on his way through. Shame really.
     
  8. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who will he fight next then? How does he start again?
     
  9. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Come on Max he's been in the corner for nearly 30 world title fights by my reckoning... Thats a pretty huge learning curve - but he can't get Enzo M to use his jab and straight punches against a lazy infighter who did not want to engage at middle distance. I'm a bit harsh on Enzo C he comes across as a good dude. But i'm sure others agree.
     
  10. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I'm not sure mate.... A change, there really has to be. Either his trainer- or his weight division. He needs to breath new life and motivation into his career. Its unsettling that he would rather train in Swansea then go to newbridge... or just make some quality arrangements for that particular fight. Those kind of decisions reek of lack of motivation.
     
  11. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I honestly believe that he's suffering from depression following his loss to Haye. If Warren had gotten him some stay busy fights rather than let him sit and ponder, he might have come through.

    He tried to make excuses that, against Haye, he made a mistake getting in the ring (which he still won't specify). He made excuses that, in the ring, he made a mistake. But, these excuses haven't emboldened him - they've just made it more difficult for him to work on his failings.

    Enzo knows that he's well below David Haye and, after all those years saying that he was so great and was the best in the world, he realised just how much Warren had to do with that delusional sense of superiority.

    He seems like an ok guy, but a bad loser with a seriously arrogant streak. That seems to be the cause of his poor motivation as much as anything.
     
  12. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I assume he means that when he hit Haye with a left in the first and he stumbled that he didn't follow up. Either that or getting smashed in the face, usually a mistake.
     
  13. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    No he said what he meant

    For those still wondering what the mistake was - this is what he said

    something along the lines of this

    "I spent 10 weeks training with my hands up and my chin down.....................................................................
    But in the fight I did exactly what I was told not to do....................
    I dropped my hands and put my chin in the air and got caught"

    that was the mistake
     
  14. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    "I'm man enough to admit I made a mistake" - Enzo Maccarnelli
     
  15. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    To be honest if Enzo continues to start making excuses for getting knocked out he is going to start losing crediabilty.

    L KO 3 Lee Swaby.......................He said he was still hung over from the night before from out drinking with the boys

    L TKO 2 David Haye....................He said he made a mistake

    L KO 10 Ola Aflobi...........................Something wrong with his blood and that he would beat Ola everytime if they fought another million times

    This is why I am starting to think if Enzo is mentally damaged after the turn of misfortune in his career

    Because he is starting to remind me of Audley Harrison