Roy Jones should've retired after the 1st Tarver fight...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jinx, Mar 23, 2009.


  1. Jinx

    Jinx Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,839
    0
    Aug 18, 2004
    and told the public he's losing his reflexes and it's time to quit...THEN he should've came back for the Calzaghe fight and win/lose/draw he still would've looked much better in history...if i was Jones this is how i would've done it and i would've shouted to media at how i was the G.O.A.T after the Calzaghe fight...Jones should've been thinking about how the fans and media would see his career, instead of just looking for the next challenge, which screwed him a bit...
     
  2. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,582
    3
    Nov 18, 2008
    Its easy for us to set back and say we would have done it this way or that way but the man has the desire to fight and thats very hard to supress even when the odds begin to stack against you. Lennox Lewis and Rocky Marciano are huge acceptions to the rule.
     
  3. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

    37,427
    89
    Jul 19, 2004
    I don't think that his reflexes were taking a hit at that point. I just think that he was fighting a better fighter than he was used to. Tarver used to chase him everywhere begging Roy to fight him. I think that Roy knew that he was in for it when he finally decided to fight him. Tarver came to the post fight press conference for Jones vs Ruiz and really embarrassed him in front of th media.

    Part of what he stood up and said...

    “I want my shot at history, Roy. Stop running from me,” Tarver shouted while Jones addressed the media from the podium. “I was so glad that you won tonight, so when we do meet, your legacy will be in tact when I knock you out. I want my shot Roy Jones, Jr. Until you beat me, I won’t be impressed. If you want to convince me, then step up in the ring.”
     
  4. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

    37,427
    89
    Jul 19, 2004
    Tarver proved that if you punch when Roy punches, he becomes MUCH MUCH less effective. Everyone used to get caught up in standing in the middle of the ring with Roy, playing the feint game and letting Roy pot shot the hell out of them. Those fights with Tarver and Johnson also proved that IF they just stood there and had a pose down with Roy, he would look just as great and flasy as he always has. However, when they punched as he punched, he really started to fall apart. Tarver exposed this fact, and Johnson executed it as well.
     
  5. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

    37,732
    1
    Apr 19, 2007
    Yes he shoulda retired after the 1st tarver fight......I don't think he was exposed..he juss was past it obviously and didn't have the same reflexes as before...
     
  6. Jinx

    Jinx Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,839
    0
    Aug 18, 2004
    if Tarver was alledged so much better than the comp Roy was facing, why did he get dropped, bloodied, and battered by Eric Harding in the eliminator to fight Jones back in 2000? That was Tarver's chance to get a crack at a prime Jones and failed miserably...so Harding got the shot at Jones and got pot-shotted and stopped in 10 easy rds for Jones...explain that...
     
  7. thesham01

    thesham01 Undisputed Champion Full Member

    1,857
    2
    Oct 13, 2008
    Jones must have an ego bigger than a boxing ring to believe a) people still wanna see him fight, and b) he has anything left in the tank to fight at a decent level!
     
  8. Devintea

    Devintea Active Member Full Member

    1,248
    3
    Sep 27, 2008
    Tarver was soundly beaten by Roy. The only debate about the fight became the fact that it was close. Jones never had a close fight before then. Even after. Jones is writing his legacy. We do not know how the ending will detail, however, I am proud that he is willing to write it. More people sit at home and bash or whine about these fighters decisions. Then, the same people live uninteresting lives that no one would bother to write about. Jones is doing what many would enjoy, living a legacy.
     
  9. Jinx

    Jinx Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,839
    0
    Aug 18, 2004
    Tarver had already got beaten by a lazy Jones that just lost a good 20lbs to make the weight...and Tarver only landed when Jones was on the ropes looking for rest...that tells you that Tarver couldn't have beat a prime Jones, and Jones should've never gave him a rematch and retired...
     
  10. Blue145

    Blue145 Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,060
    1
    Sep 3, 2008
    The man has to much of an ego to reitre. He won't be happy till he dies in the ring
     
  11. Jinx

    Jinx Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,839
    0
    Aug 18, 2004
    all im saying is that i personally would've retired as superman, and let the people hate me for about 10 yrs and then get my due props...now Jones is human, which looks better for people that need to relate to someone to call them great, but i personally gave Jones his due props while he destroying guys effortlessly...
     
  12. Devintea

    Devintea Active Member Full Member

    1,248
    3
    Sep 27, 2008

    I agree however, If I was in his shoes, I would have done the same thing. Think about it. You beat a guy on your WORST day. Jones worked out, got in right shape and then got knocked out. In his mind, he had to think "it was a mistake, where did I go wrong? This guy had to be lucky". Boxing is a hard hustle. You never know what you truly have until it is TOTALLY gone. Jones last fight may have done more damage than construction. If he over estimates his ability, he may run into another punch.
     
  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

    45,885
    3
    Aug 7, 2004


    Tarver somewhat showed in. But he got caught up standing in the middle of the ring for most of their first fight.
     
  14. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

    11,049
    27
    Nov 4, 2007
    lordie my boy is getting some serious attention as of late...the opinions about when rjj shouldve hung'em up are all across the board. but i think we can all agree that we don't want to see him get hurt and i think we can all agree that he is gonna keep fighting no matter how badly he needs to quit. this is all he knows.
     
  15. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

    51,687
    24
    Jul 28, 2008
    people say larry holmes should have retired after tyson
    people say foreman should have retired after stewart and holyfield.
    they ended doing pretty well after all that