At what Fight did Manny Pacquiao's Prime Started?

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  1. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think if we ask harrison he might know Pac's sexual prime aswell.
     
  2. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    almost everyone is better than singsurat...we called him 3k battery then, he was beaten by tunacao in his 11th fight..

    most of yuri fights are against asians and asians are not known for having hard punches...
     
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    Props to Cayote Duran, an artist from other boxing site. I personally asked the blessing to use it as av.
     
  4. WhataRock

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    Except for Moon, the Galaxy boys, Wajima, Banal, Butar-Butar, Chul Lee, Mayol, Donaire, Villaflor, Fuji, Furyama, Ganoy, Borkhosor, Sorjatuong, Suico, Muangsurin etc.


    And of course that little known fighter out Bukidon..heard of him?

    The bloke Yuri took the title from could punch and was a good fighter. Id say a more consistent, accomplished and overall better flyweight then Pac was.
     
  5. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    most of the guys you mentioned have never been a champion...there is no way that singsurat is better than pacquiao at 112...pac beat sasakul in thailand...singsurat lost to a lowly tunacao months after his best win in his home country

    pac's loss at 112 can have an excuse since he is already weight drained in that particular fight.. and that is normal for a 20 year old
     
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    :lol: Nearly all the guys I have mentioned have been a champion..Moon, Burkhosor and Galaxy being among the best their respective weights has seen.
    Of the rest at one time or another most either were ranked contenders or still are.
    What are you on about buddy?

    I never said Singsurat was better...but his run is comparable and of course he did beat Pac quite easily, regardless of the circumstances.

    I said "the bloke Yuri took the title from"...meaning Kittikasem, who was a two division champ with stoppage wins over Chang and Chitalada. And proved he was no mug in his fights with a prime Yuri.
     
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    pac would have been starched by guys like yuri arbachakov, judging from the way he fights at 112lbs. he was raw, unpolished and relies too much on his left hand, and too damn one dimensional. mind you, guys like ebihara, wongjokjam and mark johnson would have destroyed that version of pac.
     
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    :lol:
     
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    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Exactly..finally a fellow Pac fan who gets the difference between the Pac back then and the Pac of now.
     
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    my point is singurat is nobody...can be included as one of the worst champions in recent years...perhaps one of the luckiest for having to face manny who have straved the week prior to the fight.

    im not really sold that yuri would beat manny (his form against sasakul)...and yuri is considered by many to be a top 10 fiyweight of recent years (1980 onwards)
     
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    :good

    i just can't get some pac fans who think that the 112lbs version of pac is good enough to hang out with the likes of arbachakov, who is considered as one of the most technically brilliant flyweights ever.
     
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    im not really impress with yuri..but i must say the pac would be KO'd by wonjongkam and mark johnson...
     
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    Works both ways mate...If Singsurat is lucky for catching a weight drained Pac then Manny is just as lucky for catching Sasakul with a knockout punch after getting schooled for majority of the fight.
    I dont think their is luck in either case..they are both professionals, they should accept the losses and move on. Something I believe Manny did.

    I wont stop till I get you sold asero..Its quite simply a matter of watching both on film at the weight..Yuri had it all over Manny apart from power and their raw handspeed seemed pretty similar.
    He was a better flyweight..plain and simple. Using the Sasakul comparison is lame because as I said they were different fighters and those were different fights.
     
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    handspeed goes to manny, work rate goes to manny..he had better accomplishment but i feel manny would beat him..sasakul also once considered to have a rock chin, but he cant last manny's punches..it took it's toll bec of the activity rate of manny...
     
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    And when did you see Yuri knocked out, down or even hurt? :think

    And no it was not because Manny's punches took their toll...Chatchai looked pretty comfortable in the rounds preceding the fatal one..I think I had him 6 rounds to 1 up going into the 8th. If anything Sasakul let down his guard because of the position of ascendancy he was in.
    Sasakul's chin was fairly unproven really, as he was of such a high technical ability he rarely got hit with any frequency..Im not sure who said it was rock or maybe you are just making that up.