Corrie Sanders Discussion

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Russell, Mar 23, 2009.


  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    There isnt a standard definition of A Level fighter, Gatti who was a 2weight WBC/IBF champion was referred to as a C Class bum after all

    And no Rahman's win over Lewis doesn't make him A Class, do you think Leon Spinks was an A Class HW?
     
  2. SuzieQ49

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    Im not going to beat around the bush, this is one of the more disagreeable statements you have ever made Russell. Here is why....

    Tyson was demolishing TOP RATED contenders/Alphabet Soup Champions, while Sanders was demolishing Unrated Trialhorses and Journeyman.


    Two Facts for you...

    1. Corrie Sanders never even cracked Ring Magazine yearly end top ten ratings until 2003, at age 37.

    2. Corrie Sanders holds just one win over a top 10 rated contender....Wladimir Klitschko


    * This too me is the DEFINITION of a "one hit wonder"



    On a side note, I am not too impressed with sanders on film. First off, He has no muscle defintion and shows up out of shape, he lacks polished boxing skills, his defense is wide open, he tends to slap with his punches, and the only grinder against a world class fighter he ever fought..he got outhustled outwilled and lost to Rahman. I seem to remember in his last fight, he got knocked out by a club fighter in one round. Too the poster who said Tyson and Lewis avoided him, that is laughable at best.


    I believe many Klitschko fans out there overrate Sanders to make the Klit brothers appear better.
     
  3. papptheking

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    i remember, hasim rahman said of corrie sanders "i have never been hit like that before"
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I concur,

    While I do feel that Sanders did have talent and natural ability to some degree, unpolished potential means very little to almost nothing. Boxing is filled with " coulda beens. " Sanders is no exception. To his credit, he did manage to destroy ordinary comp in ways that some of his peers may not have been, and his win over Wladimir Klitschko was as good of a performance against a top rater as any. But, at the end of the day, Corrie can't be credited with anything other than a single night's work - a feat he could not duplicate.
     
  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Does the fact that he absolutely destroyed one of the best heavyweights in the world (Back when he was an aggressive, offensive machine) mean anything to you?

    All this talk of what rated fighters he didn't beat but completely ignoring the one he beat on short notice in devestating style.
     
  6. kenmore

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    Sanders basically languished throughout the '90s. I never knew if the problem was his own fault, or if the promoters were ignoring him.

    As others here have pointed out, Sanders definitely had his limitations. But again, if he had only remained active, he would have remained in or around the top 10 ratings for the most of his career.

    Concerning Sanders hitting as hard as Tyson, I disagree. I believe Iron Mike was on a level above Sanders regarding power.
     
  7. kenmore

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    Beating Vlad was a great accomplishment for Sanders, but it isn't enough to justify comparing Sanders's power with Tyson's power. The reason is that Vlad's durability was always so-so at best. Any big puncher who connects against Vlad has a chance of stopping him.
     
  8. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wait, who the hell said he hit as hard as Tyson? :patsch
     
  9. Muchmoore

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    Had Sanders been fully motivated, he would be remembered as one of the best of the era. The loss to Rahman can be attributed to him not putting forth his best effort, like someone said, he is the only man to beat Wlad straight up without Wlad gassing. A Sanders-Lewis fight would of been very interesting.
     
  10. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not to mention Sander's came within an inch of beating Rahman regardless.
     
  11. Muchmoore

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    And a prime Rahman too, who I think gets under rated.
     
  12. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yup. People cite the McCall loss as being some kind of fluke. Okay, maybe.

    But the Lennox that Rahman fought was Lennox 2.0, with the kinks worked out by Steward. And so what if he was a little chubby? He was a god damned 6'6 super heavyweight, he was chubby when he beat Vitali too. Older too.

    And it was no fluke what Rahman did. He ****ing cold cocked Lennox out cold, unlike McCall or anyone else.
     
  13. Mendoza

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    To get a high alphabet ranking, a fighter needs a promoter 1 ) get the key fights to get ranked, and 2 ) ahem make “ accommodations “ with the power brokers of the alphabet organization. Cusher never had the political connections or the money to get his man ranked or force a mandatory.

    Those are the facts. In fact, Sanders was relegated to fighting for fringe WBU belt. If he had a better promoter Sanders gets a shot world title shot the same way Vaughn Bean, Bert Cooper, Frans Botha, Jessie Ferguson and company did.

    I have read that Sanders hit as hard as Tyson did in the gym. Some of Sanders early Ko’s were real jaw droppers. You have to watch them sometime.
     
  14. Mendoza

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    Rhaman was class A when he was Ko'd Lewis. For a while, he was viewed as the best heavyweight in the world.

    Leon Spinks was never that good. Everyone knew this. Beating a far past his prime Ali was his crowning achievement.

    There is a huge difference here. Lewis clearly had something left after Rhaman beat him. Leon Spinks? He was Ko'd in one round after he beat Ali by Cotezee, and then badly outclassed by Holmes.

    I think its safe to say that 1 ) Rhaman was better than Leon Spinks, and 2 ) Rhaman's win over Lennox Lewis is far more impressive then Leon Spinks win over Ali.

    Gatti a class C bum? A bit harsh. That is your definition, not mine.
     
  15. celtic tiger

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    Where did you read that sanders hit as hard as tyson in the gym?.