Did Roy Jones losing 20 lbs of muscle factor in him losing...

Your math is flawed concerning Roy's weight. Roy kept his speed and power up for the full 12 rounds against Ruiz no matter what you think his weight was. Roy fought like his usual dominant self for 6 rounds in the rematch with Tarver...and in the Johnson fight, he was weak the whole fight as he rarely countered johnson.

The Johnson fight was a fight Roy usually shined in, but he just didn't seem to be the same strong, fast fighter he once was. Roy said his body was dead after the 8th round of the Johnson fight. Imo, Roy did not take the time off necessary to help his body adjust to the up and down weight. I do think it not only affected him in the Tarver rematch, it affected him for at least a year after the Tarver rematch...maybe even longer.

 

Exactly, and it also takes time to take off that weight. People think that Jones went up in weight to gain only a few lbs of muscle in 5-6 months, and then they say Roy didn't have that much to lose because most of it was water weight. Sick. reading about it is one thing, going through it is another. Good post.

 

We are talking about two different times. I mean isn't Dlh losing to Pac close enough proof? Jeez. Archie didn't bulk up using weights and all kinds of methods to increase his speed and power. All he did was eat and diet. He didn't take 6 months to gain weight to fight a heavy. Read up on what Moore used to do to gain and lose weight.

 

Man, what's up with the Empire State building responses to my post? Yeah, it is harder to lose weight today then yesterday. I'm 1000% sure lol. As far as the rest of what you said...No offense, but I found nothing else of interest to respond to. The drugs comment...only a Kook would respond in that manner. Moore fought Rocky and then who? Jones fought Ruiz and then Tarver.

 

Did the weight loss affect Roy in his loss to Tarver...yes or no?

 

Absolutely.

 

Dieticians and nutrionists can help a boxer when it comes to losing weight. Sure, they can get the weight down, but they can't keep up the stamina needed to compete in a long grueling fight. Miranda, and Dlh are just a few...along with a long list of fighters I can name. Second, Jones had the right diet plan in front of him, and he used all kinds of weights and exercises need to help him sustain his speed and reflexes. Moore, if you see his fight with Rocky fought hard early, and then faded. Moore said he was happy to fight at heavy because he could eat as much as he wanted. When he had to lose, he would chew his food, and before swallowing, spit it out. Todays fighters are spoiled as they can explode in weight as much as 25-30 lbs over weight before training where as athletes from yesteryear stayed around their fighting weight.

 

Then what is your point in what you're saying by responding to me? What weights did Moore use? Most fighters stayed around their fighting weight back then...thus they didn't have to lose a lot of weight. Anyway, I noticed you picked the Moore who fought for the HW title after the Durrelle fight. When was this...??? Was it Durrelle, and then a fight the HW champ? Moore fought for the heavyweight title against, Patterson and Rocky...who did he fight before and after those title shots? The nutrition found in food today is much better than the food of yesteryear.

 

My main claim is the multiple divisions that fighters are boxing in. Also, I don't make claims...I give my opinion, and my life experience on this game. I think it's harder because of the many things that you can eat which can put weight on fast. The discipline was different back then. Guys back then trained harder to me. You have a few guys who maintain today, but I think the biggest problems with fighters is the multiple weight divisions.

 

Yes it did, at his age to lose that much muscle mass it takes time to get your body back stabalized to where you feel confortable, and especially in a sport such as boxing. The average Joe could do that and mayb deal with it, but it is different when you are in there boxing.

Look at Chris Byrd he had a solid chin at heavy weight, came down in weight and got KTFO easily. When you lose that much muscle at those ages as a boxer, it takes some time for your body 2 get use 2 it.
The weight definitely affected him no doubt about it