'King' Arthur ABRAHAM vs. Kelly 'The Ghost' PAVLIK for Supremacy @ 160

Boo is generally worth the read.

 

I agree, but at work and that was lengthy.

 

Ya -- it's long, but it's long for a reason. The analytical prowess of the average AA fan consists of "Arthur will knock him out." It's easy to lay out a dozen reasons why that will not happen.

 

Doesn't really make a difference how long or short your analysis is if your right.

 

If no thought goes into the analysis it is a good indication how much weight to give it.

 

I'll take Pavlik by KO in the late rounds...I mean the skill level is very different..Kelly IMO is a better fighter...AA didn't look good against a common opponent against Miranda...even in the rematch AA didn't look that good..IMO Kelly is to lanky and long and can box or fight with him...And to those that are gonna bring up BHOP, I doubt AA would do any better than Kelly did against BHOP

 

Some people go off gut and some people just can't be bothered writing an essay. You could go into immense detail in your analysis and be right in theory but that goes out the window once u get in the ring.

 

And most have NO clue. They are trolls that live through certain boxers and only come on here to gloat if they happen to be right or slink away if they are wrong, only to resurface later under another identity and pretend it never happened. If that is all they want to do, they should just go vote in the polls and leave the rest of us alone. To be honest, more and more of these guys are making my ignore list. " X is **** so Y will beat him" earns an immediate spot anymore. And Boo's point, there are few that will engage him on his points. He laid it out, just pick one. That ain't so hard.

 

I'm not saying he's wrong. I'm saying just because he went into detail that doesn't automatically make him right. But i agree at least he brought up a reasoned argument. not the bull**** hating & nut-hugging that too often goes on.

 

I agree that nothing ****s up a good analysis quite like a boxing match:yep

However, the assumption that Abraham will knock Pavlik out cannot be backed up by the facts. There seems to be this under lying notion that Kelly will just aimlessly beat on Arthur's guard until AA finally decides to counter. The idea is ludicrous.

Here's a list of guys who went 10 or more rounds with AA at 160: Nadar Hamdan, Ian Gardner, Howard Eastman, Shannon Taylor, Kofi Jantuah, Edison Miranda, Khoren Gevor, Elvin Ayala, and LuJaun Simon.

Now here's a list of guys who went 10 or more rounds with Pavlik at 160: :nono


Arthur is not going to knock Pavlik out. Pavlik is the clear favorite when it comes to a KO ending, and AA has almost no chance of out boxing him. He just does not have the right tools.

 

Pavlik on points.

 

Hey Iceland! Good to see ya. Why by decision?

 

Because if Abraham is backed up like I expect, he will primarily be in defensive mode as we saw in Miranda II up until he floored Miranda. That does not give Pavlik much opportunity at a clean target, and even when he does break through Abraham has the chin to take a certain degree of punishment, his track record proves it. I expect Pavlik will also be wary about Abraham's power also, I don't think he'll go all guns blazing until Abraham is tired. I just don't see Pavlik having enough time to force it, maybe over 15 rounds he could.

One also has to expect a more highly motivated Abraham compared to the one that fought Simon.

 

Okay -- it could go that way. Not what I expect, but I see your points.

 

Pavlik in a moderate-wide UD.

Unlike against most fighters, Abraham's habit of curling up in the corner won't get him very far here. Pavlik has a lot of power and is an expert in wearing people down. We saw what happened when the last guy came to last and not throw against Pavlik - he gave up after the 9th and walked out of the ring with his head looking like a melon. Even a sub-par cupcake in Simon was able to outwork AA for the majority of that fight; imagine what a fighter with a higher work rate, greater power and stinging jab would do? Pavlik will prod AA back constantly with his jab; and AA will retreat and hang around on the ropes and get pounded most of the time, like he normally does. But Pavlik will steadily damage him and win round after round.

I can't see AA's power causing much of a problem for Pavlik, either. Pavlik's defence is far from razor-sharp; but it's certainly improved. In any case, my granny could probably dodge those wide, looping Rocky Balboa shots. Pavlik will do so par excellence, and crack right hands and left hooks down the pipe in return. AA looks devastating because he's been fighting guys that just can't deal with his massive strength. As soon as he runs into someone with an ounce of experience and boxing skills, he won't be able to shoot off those bombs willy-nilly like he's used to. Anyway, Pavlik's chin has been proven as solid - he took some real rockets from JT and got blasted around the ring by a 185+ pound B-Hop, and managed to stay standing.

By the same token, I can't see AA getting knocked out. His guard is too good; and I don't think Pavlik will have the luxury of being able to land the clean bombs he has in the past. In any case, AA's chin is solid enough to stand up to them. Pavlik will grind him down with constant jabbing, body shots and sheer relentlessness to win a solid UD.