At what Fight did Manny Pacquiao's Prime Started?

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  1. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Here is a pretty good fight of his asero...once he warmed to the task he was just about flawless in a technical sense. No way a young weight drained pre-prime Pac deals with this kind of ability.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYEM10YYxWA
     
  2. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its the finish of the rematch with Kittikasem.
     
  3. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    in that fight yuri was hardly hit by combinations and was never threaten in the fight. there were clear shots by Kittikasem but if that is manny pacquaio he would not just settle for 1-2 combinations...something got to give...pac is not weight drained in the sasakul fight...
     
  4. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    All Manny did pretty much up until his featherweight days was 1-2's.

    I think you are trying to pretend that I havent seen the sasakul fight. When it seems to me you have just replayed the last round over and over again..and thats the extent of your knowledge of the fight.

    Basically all Pac did in that fight was 1-2's and lunging in with his hail mary left hand..which found its mark eventually.
    Other then that he just ate Sasakul leads and body shots..until he turned more aggressive seemingly almost out of desperation, then for the most part he ate Sasakul counters as he followed him around the ring.

    You acting as though Pac was Johnny Tapia in there or something.

    Kittikasem attempted to do more then that...He let his hands go a bit more in the first fight.
     
  5. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    no way 122 pac was tapia or arce...i just feel he is better than sasakul and yuri h2h...that's all..i've seen pacquiao career and he did not earn his 122 on pure luck...he work his way to the title shot
     
  6. WhataRock

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    Again..you are using the more mature 122 version of Pac and then shrinking him down to the his 112 version.

    Instead of using the actual 112 version..who was ko'd twice and was getting pretty handily outpointed before he got the KO in his title win.

    Manny Pacquiao just wasnt the fighter he would become yet at 112. If you think Manny would bring more then just 1-2's in against Yuri, when thats clearly pretty much all he did at that point in time then you are putting the ******* goggles on.
     
  7. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    my bad im saying the 112 pac and not the 122...typo error..
     
  8. elchivito

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    i believe his prime started with his victory over barrera and his peak in his victory over jmm 2 to present. in his prime he had the speed and the power, but his defensive and jabbing techinques were raw, unlike today where he moves in and out effectively, has better use of his right hook, and much better defensive technique. i'm not sure if he can really get any better than he is already, the guy is a beast
     
  9. HyperBone

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    no disrespect asero but i definitely agree with whatarock. there is no way in hell that pac can beat yuri especially the version who fought kittikasem. he will definitely figure out pac and neutralize his offense if they ever fought. Judging from his performance against sasakul, he was lucky enough to time a clean punch and pull off a ko win, because it would have been a schooling imo. pac's special traits are already there, but he was unpolished as a flyweight.
     
  10. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    would you say that pac victory over sasakul is luck? i would see sasakul's style giving pac more problems that yuri's style...
     
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    the good thing about pac when he was at 112lbs. was his power. he always has a punchers chance. and his speed is already evident during that time although he was predictable and hittable. when you watched the sasakul fight, there have been times where pac was hurt whenever sasakul lands a counterpunch. he was able to avoid many flurries from pac and was doing a very good job outboxing him until the 8th round ko. i can say that pac got 3 rounds against sasakul before the ko.

    Yuri Arbachakov, i believe, was no longer in his prime anymore when he fought sasakul. during his prime he was a smooth techician, both on offense and defense, and add to that his speed and power that could have matched pac if they fought.
     
  12. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    very good analysis, but i feel sasakul has more speed than yuri...thai boxers are always know for their speed. speed and constant pressure is the reason why i feel pac can beat yuri. i would expect yuri to change his style if he faced pac, and i feel sasakul has a better footwork that yuri that's why sasakul won 4 clear rounds in the pacquiao fight

    the thing with 112 pac is you can expect that the fight won't last 12 rounds. he is very risky and he gets away with that because he is the bigger and stronger fighter.
     
  13. harrison

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    :lol::lol::lol:

    whatarock, you are turning into hermaphrodite :D

    so, whats the crystal ball again saying?? :rofl
     
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    Physical Barrera 1
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  15. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i take the morales 2 fight...from that fight on he is just superb and seems really on his prime...also, 27-30 is the peak of most athletes in any sports