What Will Haye Fans Say When Vlad Knocks Him Out?

to each his own I guess:good

 

I'm a Haye fan and i still know he's getting KTFO! Klitschkos to big to strong to good!!!

 

Shut the f*** up your the biggest f**** poser there is. Please don't question anybody else ability to reason, when you have none. Have you ever seen the sh** that comes out of you, and the flies that you attract?

 

STFU Noob

 

i suspect, despite all the heated debate so far, that if--and i believe he will likely do so--wlad knocks out haye, the main thing hayemaniacs will be screaming the next day will be that haye was SO VERY CLOSE to knocking out klitschko at (insert round, minute, second) and that the fight ought to have been stopped then, when haye was scoring the de facto knockout. the trick to this line of reasoning is that it will likely be applied whether or not haye ever had wlad in trouble. because wlad has been ko'd and been chinny in less defensively minded days in his career, and i admit fully he is a knockout risk every time he gets in the ring, if haye hits him one time, cleanly or otherwise, haye supporters will say the fight should have been stopped then. that, to my mind, is the likely exit strategy.

 

Don't quiet your day job homie, because in that your just so so so SPECIAL!:rofl

 

it's nice to see that the clash between a subdued, friendly, chinny ever-more-technical and cautious giant and a mouthy, flashy, chinny blown up cruiser have you boys tearing into one another with all the ferocity i'd expect if each of you had committed some violent crime against the other. i suppose my point is, as is the case with every fight, it's easy enough to find out who is right and who is full of it, all you have to do is ease off the rage pedal a bit and wait for the scrap to be signed and come off on time. and if it doesn't...nothing to argue about. everybody wins.

 

First i think hayes used this as a ploy to make a big name for himself, an he won't risk a loss to wlad anytime soon,,,,,,,when it does happen, most of his fans won't be on this site for a long time an when they do come back, it will be with a new HOPE agaisnt wlad, which could be eddie chambers, an when they talk about chambers, it will be he fought a more game peters an won more convincly, an make fun of the brothers for beating two over-hyped cruiserweights in gomez an hayes

 

i've heard all the same stories about the brewster fight and, honestly, most of that stuff amounts to little more than whispers in the dark. however, i do think it is entirely possible that he was drugged. however, the most likely scenario is full of holes. giving someone an injection of fast acting synthetic insulin (novolin regular insulin or any of the humalog varieties ringed with crimson or blue tops instead of the typically silver would do the trick). but nowhere did wlad ever claim that he might have been injected secretly--or against his will. wlad's blood sugar did fluctuate strangely after the fight, the way it would if person with a functioning pancreas was injected with insulin and their circulatory system reacted strongly to both extreme measures of creating too little, then too much insulin, perhaps, even causing keto-acidosis which makes the muscles swell as the blood thickens.

however, the idea of a diabetic coma being induced by too much insulin is absurd. when a person's blood sugar drops suddenly, as a result of hypoglycemia or an overdose of synthetic insulin they do not go into a coma, they become disoriented, sweat, shake and, eventually, seize violently during which heart attack and internal bleeding can occur because the blood is artificically thinned, after which time they either go into shock, during which the body feeds on its own tissues in order to try to manufacture glucose in a bloodstream deprived of the ability to oxygenate the blood. the point is death is more likely to occur than a coma.

diabetic comas, by definition, occur slowly because of too much glucose in the blood, high blood sugar, not low. this is often brought on when diabetes goes undiagnosed for extended periods in senior citizens with other ailments that might produce the same symptoms. however, an otherwise healthy person would have to live under this extreme and bizarre physical stress for days before extreme dehydration would exacerbating hyperactive clotting and respiratory stress during which coma can (and does) occur, but does not neccessarily. by that point one would be urinating in extreme pain because of the neccessary onset of keto-acidosis...the acid in the blood is excreted through the urinary tract.

if he wlad poisoned, it wasn't likely by insulin...which leaves the blood sugar tests and later, glycocelated hemoglobin tests (a longer term version of the simple finger ***** blood sugar test that measures blood sugar across two to three months), as of yet, unresolved. insulin cannot be absorbed efficiently (or, in many cases, at all) through the stomach lining, intestines or nasal tissues and membranes. injection is the only option...and that is injection into dense muscle fiber (arms, leg, backside) into which it is absorbed and integrated into a form acceptable to the circulatory system before entering the blood stream.

if insulin was snuck into an intra-vein line there would be a nearly immediate, violent, extreme physical reaction at the introduction of a synthetic, non-oxygenated insulin directly into the blood stream. there are many questions hanging over that knockout loss, but the medicine behind the allegations is a bit loose. i'm not saying he wasn't poisoned. i am just saying there is suspicion based on fact and taken to extremes based on gross oversimplifications of complex metabolic processes with clear, well-understood parameters.

 

Ihave only been watching wlad fight for a few years. Everytime, it's the same thing: wlad plays his game and forces fighters to fight his fight by using his jab and by clinching on the inside. He know he has a pretty bad chin and he has adjusted accordingly. I watched his ko losses on youtube and the it's clear that he tightened up his game since the last one. IMO, He should have been considered the undisputed champ a couple of years ago. Maybe after he beats this cruiser, he'll get that credibility.

 

I myself will say 'That's what I thought would happen'

 

farmboxer hates black boxers.

true story.