One of the great FW Wars: Sanchez TKO15 Nelson

I think Nelson would edge out Barrera at FW, just about....actually maybe Barrera edges him out.

Morales vs. THIS Nelson could go either way, they'd both be up for fighting and either guy could go down (as Morales seemed a bit more vulnerable ocne he was up at FW, and then nearing the end of his prime, and Nelson was supposedly 'green' at this point)

Pep would do to Nelson what Pea did to him at LW. No doubt Nelson was never supposed to be up at 135, but his inexperience (against a guy like Pep) would lead to the same result, a schooling. Over 15 it would be even moreso

Guys like Pep and Pea were all wrong for Nelson, he needed someone who wanted to fight.

How do you think Nelson vs. Naz would've played out? Any version of FW Nelson vs. Prime Naz that is.

 

I see Naz being dropped a couple of times before stopping Nelson around the 8th.

I have Nelson at about 60-ish in my top 100, Naz between 90-100 (if I remember correctly) Any thoughts on that?

 

Yeah I don't think Naz would make my top 100 if I did it now.....but McGrain you include ALL boxing....I usually go from Post-War (with a few notable exceptions)

Basically if I've read a lot about someone that I haven't seen they might make it if they're resumes are that good.....but even though Barbados Joe Walcott was clearly amazing, I haven't seen him fight so he's not on there....Langford neither, though both guys are genuine top 20 of all time (this I know)

Not out of ignorance, just me trying to seperat 'old time fighters' with 'modern boxing'. Know what I mean?

 

Of course. Some people leave the likse of Benny Leonard/Sam Langford out due to ignorance or lack of knowledge, I always put my criteria before my lists so people don't say things like 'Roy Jones at 20 but no place for Jack Johnson??!?!?! What are you ******ed??!?!'

My lists would be different and much harder to compile if I went from say, 1880-present day :good

 

I think that version of Nelson would have beaten Barrera and Morales at fw. Just too relentless. I could actually see him stopping both, though I don't know if I would actually predict that, those were two tough Mexicans (and I rank both men higher than the Professor p4p).

I think he would stop Naz early. Bad stylistic match for Naseem. Though Naz would as ever have a live puncher's chance, no doubt about that.

 

I had him 40-45 I think. Though if I ever wrote another list, I think that placing would be different as my opinions have changed on a few things. But I really can't be bothered writing another list. I think anywhere from 35-55 is a fair ranking of Sal.

 

I had Sanchez in my top 20.....as I get a wee bit older I have him between 25-35. H2H he's in the top 10, not many FW's in history would hang with Sanchez IMO

 

I wouldn't argue with you on the Barrera decision, that's a pick-em for me to be honest. What about Nelson v Morales?

I see your point on Nelson v Naz, but I still think Nelson would crush him. For me, Naseem just didn't have the brain or the technical skill or the defence of a Sanchez or a Barrera (not that either man was exactly Pernell Whitaker in terms of avoiding punches, but they have far more developed defensive games than Naz). I can see Nelson consistently backing him up, cutting him off, and blitzing his way through Naseem's shoddy shitty guard, punishing him on the ropes for long periods. As I said, of course Naz has a realistic punchers chance, if they fought a few times I would be shocked if Naz didn't land a piledriver and secure a victory at least once, but the vast majority of the time Nelson would triumph IMO.

#49 is a fair rating in my eyes. We all know it could and should have been higher, but we can only judge the resume that is there.