Fighters Who Lost As Much As They Won

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    There are a several types of fighters in the game of boxing.

    Fighters that almost never win, and lose dozens and dozens of times. The worst of the worst. Tomato cans. Filler for up and coming fighters records.

    Fighters with undefeated or nearly perfect records. The golden boys of boxing, world class elite fighters. That or ridiculously well managed ones.

    And then there are fighters who somehow manage to win as much, or nearly as much as they win. Either this is a fighter having a iffy chin while having great power, or taking fights on extreme short notice and or being inconsistent. Or a some combination of the two.

    So, who are they? What made them have such strange records?

    Curtis "Hatchetman" Shepard, who Archie Moore cited as the hardest hitter he ever faced, comes to mind.
     
  2. Flea Man

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    Augustus is an obvious modern example.
     
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    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yup, that he is. Great example of terrible manegement with some close calls and robberies sprinkled in.
     
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    Gaétan Hart, Kirino Garcia, Michael Sprott
     
  5. good right hand

    good right hand Well-Known Member Full Member

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    great thread, some of them are actually very talented

    seldrick feilds who hold wins over briggs and a draw over al cole

    marteze logan a very live spoiler who gave alot of undefeated prospect tough fights

    anthony ivory who despite a losing record, has beaten and drawn with many talented fighters

    darryl pickney has a losing record but beat both guty espadas and junior jones

    luis lizarraga was a very game fighter who beat jermain feilds and tontcho tontchev

    john brown needs no introction as the trail horse and is quoted as one of the toughest little guys in boxing.
     
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    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    antonio margarito could be on this
     
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    Edward Allen Hall, Alain Bonnamie
     
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    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Heavyweight contender Jack Roper basically won about half of his fights. OF course, the other half also consisted of a fair number of draws as well.
     
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    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Teddy 'Red Top' Davis, who had something like a 75-75 win-loss record. But he fought the best, beat alot of the good ones and fought Saddler for the world title, going the distance to boot.

    Scartissue
     
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    :patsch how? if he loses his next 25 fights????
     
  11. Drew101

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    Rudy Barro (fringe contender with some nice wins)
    Arturo Leon (has a victory over Chacon, went the distance with Arguello in a title challenge, and wound up with a losing record)
     
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    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of the more modern fighters:

    Kelvin Seabrooks (27-22); was a fine fighter, who was matched tough from day one.

    Darryl Pinckney (24-42-3; but with 1-1-18 record to finish his career) was a hard punching 118lbs journeyman, who took you distance and found out the frauds.

    Mo Harris (20-14); was a good sort, who could of benefited from better matchmaking.

    David Jaco (24-25); could give anyone outside the very best competition.

    Juluis Francis (23-24); If you were a prospect not at the top of your game, Juluis at his best could beat you.
     
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    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    sorry misread the the nature of the thread
     
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    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fred Pendleton turned in to a good fighter, despite having many losses. others are:
    Sauol Mamby, Pablo Baez, Iran Barkley, Jesse Ferguson, Andy Ganigan, Bernardo Prada.
     
  15. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And he was stopped or knocked out some 14 times!

    I think when evaluating these matters one has to take the character of the losses into account. There are tough fighters who lost close decisions and drew a lot, and then there were fighters who went to sleep or lay helpless on the ropes a lot.

    Any fighter who loses a quarter or more of their fights when many of these losses are to inferior opposition or inside the distance has a problem.