A few points on Ricky-Manny, what are your thoughts?

bet you more that half of the training would be for the weight reduction...

as for pac, he is concentrating on hatton's body...i know hatton would present his chin but pac would not he tempted for the hatton trap..

 

My conclusion..."there will be a knockout".

Pac catches Hatton coming in, stuns him and finishes him. Hatton does get in and lands a big left hook on Pac that drops him. Both possible, first most likely.

 

it was the Solis fight, i think. after the clash of heads and the cut.

 

you're welcome mate. this is really noticeable, in some occasions when pac cuts, he really panics and either becomes furious or just covers-up like what he did in the round 8 of marquez rematch. i don't think he's that comfortable seeing his own blood gushing in his face. this doesn't mean that he isn't a warrior.

but still not that conclusive because if i remember in the morales1 fight, pac seems to have performed better (my observation) after the cut. of course i had to rewatch them again to make sure.

 

I think 2) the southpaw style could be a big issue but 1) the preparation will be spot on, Hatton always comes into the ring in the best possible condition.

 

I'm toying with Hatton @ 3.1 on the exchanges.

 

Freddie's gotten carried away with himself the last couple of years. Brand new? All he needs to keep Manny focused on is his jab and his footwork, how to keep Ricky turning, defensive, and away from the ropes. How well Manny executes and how his style of athleticism will make it look doesn't make it "brand new".

I'm starting to get a little a sick of all the "Roachisms". Just train your damn fighter and let him speak in the ring.

 

On the issue of the training i'm sure Mayweather is over here in the UK for 5 weeks before they go to the US for 4 weeks....i see no problem with that....reports in the UK say he is easily the closest hes been to 140 with this amount of time still to go to the fight, plus Hatton has never had a problem with weight despite his ridicoulous balloning in between fights...I''m positive hes in great condition

I really think Pacs 'invincible' status has got out of hand, above 130 Pac has really done nothing to make you think he could dominate Hatton. Diaz was an atrocious 135 lb titlist, and DLH we all know the deal there....Ricky is a monster at 140....Pac will have never felt the strength Hatton will exibit at 140.

I can't wait for this scrap :smoke

 

Totally agree. I'm not saying Pac can't win but people are going way overboard on the back of the Diaz/ Oscar fights.

 

I like Manny to win, but Hatton shouldn't be a 2-1 dog. It has gotten out of hand.

 

Betfair 3.05 available
BetDaq 3.15 available
****in goods odds like. I can't stand the little wanker but 3.15? I think I'm gonna get on that.

 

You call yourself britinvasion then call Hatton a little wanker :huh

Good post Mcgrain, ill add my thoughts nearer the fight and when im less pissed.

 

I've been a low-key Pac fan, ever since Barerra 1.

And while I like Ricky as a person, I'm not a big fan of his boxing style. Reminds me of Ruiz.

I was a fan of Kostya and was upset when Ricky and David Paris managed to make him quit after 11.

All this just by way of background.



So to May 2nd.

Manny has had a great career, especially since Barerra 1.

Winning titles in five divisions from 112-135.

And to me, he seems to get better each outing. While still not a defensive master, his defence has improved considerably in the past five years.

He has carried his power up with him succesfully all the way to 147.

(I'm not saying he had serious KO power at welter, but enough pop to dissuade Oscar from continuing.)

His last outing, while a great victory over a legend, I believe is misleading.

I'm of the opinion that Oscar made the wrong kind of preparation for the fight, choosing to drop weight for Manny, well before fight night.

So he weighed in at 142 and entered the ring 36 hours later at 146.

(He should have weighed in at 147 and entered the ring just under 160.)

I believe that some might be reading too much into that result.



Ricky has also had a good innings over the same five years or so, since Tackie.

His opposition has been less impressive than Manny's or more past their best. And while Ricky's loss was more decisive than Manny's, Morales was not Mayweather.


In terms of boxing skill, both offensive and defensive, Manny has a clear edge. Manny is also faster.

In both the punch and punch resistance department, I feel Ricky has the edge. Ricky possesses the kind of body punch that can (and has) cause trouble for Manny. And Manny can be hit.

I believe that Ricky is FAR stronger than Manny and, while I don't care for his style on the inside, I believe that Manny will have trouble neutralizing that style, and the tactics Haton uses when he's in there.


Now I don't believe that if A beats B and B beats C, then A beats C.
But I don't think present Manny would beat even the elderly version of Tszyu that Ricky faced. As they say, styles make fights.


As you suggest, Ricky might not be in prime condition, or he might have weight problems close to the fight. Manny has the clear advantage in stamina. And given his lifestyle, he could show up shot some night, rather suddenly.

But given that this fight will lead to huge paydays with Floyd and/or JMM, there should be sufficient motivation to come in prepared.


If both fighters come in in tip top shape and well prepared, this is a 50-50 fight.

Much will depend on how the thing gets refereed, and what Hatton is 'allowed' to do.

On the basis of his natural fighting size being 140 and his edge in strength and in-fighting, I will lean ever so slightly towards Hatton, 51-49.

The closeness of the thing on paper is what makes this fight such a great match-up.

I might change my pick before the first bell, but as of right now, Im picking Hatton by stoppage.

Tenth or eleventh round.