If Froch had been brave and wanted glory and recognition, he'd have fought Calzaghe

I only read what I found in an article online, that Bute was offered a WBC title eliminator against Froch and turned it down and went the IBF route. Maybe the reason he turned it down was because he wasn't going to get a shot for a while even after winning an eliminator with that Andrade-Grant fight you talked about, same with Froch having to wait a while to get his chance.

But I suppose maybe he just wanted the WBC belt and didn't set his sights on anything else, who knows maybe even the WBC belt ment more to him than a fight with Calzaghe, he said after winning it he talked a lot about it being the best organization and the belt that ment the most to him, so maybe that's the case.

Was a Calzaghe-Kessler fight already in the works by the time Froch turned down the IBF eliminator with Bute? Maybe then he was looking to direct Calzaghe directly, and not give become his mandatory and force him into a fight.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6506517.stm

Just trying to bring different sources into the mix.

This shows that why Froch may of turned down an eliminator with Bute, who then faced Bika instead, he took on the guy Bute just beat whatever his name is, I can't spell it so I won't bother, but him and coupled with Kessler beating Andrade that lead to him apparent being #1 according to that article?

 

How are you so sure that Kessler would have been fighting Froch in 2008 even if Froch had beat Bute.

The argument that Froch could have ended up fighting Calzaghe if he had fought Bute seems to depend on Kessler fighting the winner if they did fight. With Palle dictating Kesslers opponents, there is no gaurentee that would have happenned, or that Kessler would have faced any different opponents from who he did in 2008.

 

He called out Bute and also called out Mundine who had the WBA ordinary (bull****) title, in the end he fought Sartison or Mundines vacated title in June 08. I guess if the IBF champ had been willing to fight him, he might have got a shot at the IBF title sooner but as the WBA installed him as their mandatory challenger more or less as soon as he lost to Calzaghe, I don't think you can blame Froch or not seeing that fighting Bute in 07 could have led to a fight with Kessler in early 08.

There were only 5 months between Calzaghe fighting Kessler and fighting Hopkins, and it was only in the month after the Kessler fight that Hopkins made his "white boy" remark, more or less confirming that he would be fighting Calzaghe. I doubt that Calzaghe would have been more interested in Froch than Hopkins even if Froch had beat Kessler - he was talking about becomming a two weight world champion at the time.

It was before the Kessler-Calzaghe fight that Froch turned down the Bute fight and Froch would have needed to predict the outcome to know that the course you're suggesting would have been open too him, even then I think the time of Calzaghe's move to LHW could have prevented the fight.

 

lol you have to beat enough ranked fighters before you can call fighters out until carl beat pascal he was not in a position to call out named fighters apart from calzaghe as it is domestic.

 

Froch wouldnt have beaten Kessler. Not a hope in hell.

 

Froch doesn't have the exposure to make a big enough fight for JC.

 

I wasn't sure if you were suggesting it was more pre-meditated to call out Calzaghe whilst weaseling about with other fights at the same time.

In that case, I agree, Londsdale belts may be well respected but Froch seemed too intent on winning one even though the domestic competition was quite weak. I think he's always been up or a big payay fight with Calzaghe but he should have tried to move onto the international stage much sooner. I think he also turned down Euro title chances to keep going ater domestic level opponents (?).

Some people are overhyping him now because he's going to America to fight Taylor but that didn't really seem to be in his character until recently.