Never followed Carl Froch..basically this guy wants to be Roy Jones?

Well, I like to think of myself as objective and somewhat knowledgeable. CUFreeze, here, though, hasn't even acknowledged my post and is much more intent on having a go at Sarah and the other Froch nuthuggers, for some reason...so I wonder why I bothered. :conf

 

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I've seen two of his fights actually, which was quite enough for me to leave out the guesswork.

Froch is a plodder, and he is one dimensional. Sorry to break it to you.

When Froch tries to do the RJJ, it is akin to watching Ricky Hatton sticking and moving: it just doesn't work (I'm being a little harsh on Hatton here to illustrate my point, he actually sticks and moves far better than Froch boxes, see the Urango fight).

So while he does things other than just plod, he is simply terrible at them (for lack of a better word).

This means he is a one dimensional fighter, and a poor one at that.

 

Awww, your post didn't get acknowledged. Poor you. Here, have a tissue :yep

 

Ive seen Froch fight many times and one dimensional hes not .... this guy throws punches from all sorts of angles ... i admit defensively he worries the shite out of me but hes a good good boxer who will give JTaylor a one way ticket into retirement ....

Bad intentions as hes nicknamed should be changed to Jermain'havent got the heart for this 'Taylor .... thas his problem alot of talent but you need the heart n passion .. hes not got it

 

It's not that, it's that the guy seems more interested in putting nuthuggers down, rather than finding out about the very topic he seemed to be interested in. :conf

Thanks for the tissue, btw. I'll wipe my tears of joy watching Dawson take on Tarver again.:yep

 

He carries his lead hand low. That's it. So the answer is no.His style is nothing like Jones whatsoever

 

What makes you think LiamE is biased ?

 

This is just ignorant. Taylor didn't have to take the rematch in the first place, especially not immediately, as all his camp were advising against it. That alone is probably braver than anything you've done in your life, especially in a sport plagued by situations like Meldrick Taylor's, Gerald McClellan's, and god forbid Duk Koo Kim's. Taylor fought the fight he thought he needed to fight in order to win; yes he admitted to being hesitant to pull the trigger in that fight because of getting gassed in the first fight, but he gets a pass from me and most other rational people for that considering he was fighting the guy who had just KHTFO.

Taylor went on to make millions defending his belt against a top p4p fighter in Wright and a crowd-pleasing banger in Pavlik instead of moving up in weight to face a guy who wasn't highly regarded in the United States until after he'd beaten Kessler.

Stop revising history; after Taylor/Lacy, when Taylor was trying to get a fight with Calzaghe, it wasn't clear at that point whether Joe would return. He didn't make his official retirement annoucement until more than a month later.

Now I'm going to have to call TOTAL BS on this one, because you don't have a clue what you're talking about. It is widely known that Winky is the one who turned down any mention of a rematch with Taylor. Taylor's camp offered (which they were under no contractual obligation to do), and Wright didn't want any part of it. Please get your facts straight before it results in you posting lies.

Shamed my ass. Stop drinking the kool aid. Up until the fight was made you Froch nuthuggers were calling Taylor a ducker, saying he was scared of Froch, and now you've changed it into him being dragged kicking and screaming into the fight. Clearly you don't understand the business or the economics of the situation, but you can hardly be blamed considering your boy Froch doesn't either as he was goaded into signing a contract for a fight before securing tv coverage. DiBella played Froch and Hennessy like fools - you can hardly blame Taylor for having a better promoter than Froch does.

 

Froch has very good accuracy and nowadays plants his feet for every shot, from every angle, left or right.

Nothing like Jones.

 

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pascal fight... now he's a RJJ wannabee.

 

I won't defend Tarver vs Dawson 2, that fight is...bah.

 

Yes fighting Pavlik is braver than me because I wouldn't get in the ring with him. Then again I'm not a professional boxer am I? Or do you assume anyone who cannot box cannot have eyes and a brain or worse yet an opinion? Hopkins is a genius. Taylor is not - see the difference? Not all boxers are 'the same'. Some find natural talent and use that talent to get what they want financially but that's as far as it goes.

Taylor fought that second fight like Hopkins did their 2nd fight - cautiously that's why he lost. Fact.

Taylor beat Kessler?

You realize Taylor had to fight Pavlik again right? His whole reputation was on the line after he got put down by a guy he failed to put down himself in round 2 of fight one; rather embarassing for a man groomed to be the 'MW King'. I remember the nuthugging HBO payed Taylor only too well.
Add to this Pavlik has been exposed recently as completely pliable in the ring and 1 dimensional it shames Taylor's abilities. Technical he is but he lacks strategy, heart & power.

No - Taylor waited UNTIL Calzaghe retired then opened his mouth & said these things. Things along the lines of it would have been a fantastic opportunity for him which is strange considering after Calzaghe called out Taylor Taylor gave the "Who's Calzaghe?/5 million isn't enough!" Argument.
It was documented on a few of the top sites recently - go do some digging I can't be arsed but you'll find him saying this all AFTER Joe retired - facts are facts you can't change them.

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"The best always want to fight the best, and I wanted to fight Joe. As a fellow champion and warrior, I know the price we have to pay in the ring. Joe retired healthy, wealthy and with a Hall of Fame career. Although I am disappointed that we won't face each other, I applaud his decision to leave on his own terms, and wish Joe the best of luck."

Yeah ok Jermain we believe you sure thing mate one week its one thing the next another. Its funny he calls himself a WARRIOR AFTER pricing himself out. /clap /clap atsch

Completely ****ing wrong. Taylor was shamed and you know it! The fact he went for Lacy over Froch 1st ties in with all I've said previously then he refused to come to the UK to fight a champion THEN tried to price himself out. Froch has taken a large pay cut - as the champion - to prove a point; Taylor had no choice even here on ESB people began questioning him - again - GO LOOK UP THE THREADS!

 

We're not talking about talent or brains; we're talking about you criticizing a man whose profession is to put his health at risk, if not his life on the line, every time he goes to work, for lacking heart. I personally can't even stand it when one fighter criticizes another for not having heart, much less someone who watches the sport from afar who feels like they can sit and type it while hiding behind a keyboard. Criticize anything you like about Taylor or any other fighter, but calling him heartless is just ignorant.

No, Taylor did not beat Kessler. It was pretty clear I was talking about Calzaghe there, and how he was a virtual nobody in the United States until after he beat Kessler and wasn't truly respected (if you want to call it that) until he fought Hopkins.

Ironic that you say he "had to fight Pavlik again" for his own reputation after getting KO'd, then STILL criticize him for not having heart. You do realize these are contradictary sentiments, right? Taylor did not "have to fight Pavlik again", he could've waited or released Pavlik from the contractual obligation altogether. The sole reason he pursued the fight immediately after losing was BECAUSE of his heart, his pride, his "warrior mentality."

An article from Nov. 16, 2008, the day after Taylor beat Lacy, where he mentions the possibility of a Calzaghe fight. He called out Calzaghe in the post-fight interview, for chrissakes. Get a clue. Calzaghe didn't announce his retirement until February 2009. Add it up.

And quoting a Taylor demand for $10 million is a joke; clearly he was setting a jumping off point for negotiations. Both were considered prime fighters at the time, both undefeated champions, and Taylor had just earned $4 million for his fight with Wright.

Not to mention that a shot Roy Jones earned $10 million for fighting Joe a year later in what was a joke matchup. So to act like Taylor's inital demand was ridiculously overpriced is being a bit out of touch with reality.

Go look up the thread? LOL. I've been following every word of Taylor/Froch from day one, and what I know is that Taylor was under an exclusive contract with HBO for one more fight, and they approved Lacy but not Froch. Easy choice, if you ask me. I also know that Froch sat on a contract that was sent to him in December and finally accepted in February for an additional $50K only after Taylor threatened to fight Allan Green instead. The fact that Froch is jumping at the chance to fight Taylor, even "taking a pay cut" as you put it and being too rushed to sign a tv contract before signing the fight - should tell you everything you need to know about who stands to gain what from this fight. The point Froch is proving is that Taylor is a bigger name than he is and if he wants to be in a position of power himself, he's got to earn it.