Why are people favoring Pavlik over Abraham?

There is no doubt in my mind that Pavlik can outbox AA over 12 rounds. I just do not think it is necessary. KP is very, very good at capatilizing on the other mans mistakes and flaws. The first time AA backs up with his hands down, or lunges in with his head and shoulders sticking out past his feet, he gets blistered!

 

All AA had to do was look at the ref and get a point take for 'low blows'. It was to the point where he couldn't work the body for fear of disqualification. So, he couldn't use the body to bring down the hands to finish him. I have the raw footage of the fight and have watched it several times.

 

Everytime Simon got near Arthur's beltline, Arthur pitched a *****. In the mean time he beat on Simon's hips with impunity!

 

Even though my butt is permanantly seated in the Pavlik Express, your post is spot on point, even BINGO! Very well said.:yep

 

The heighth and reach difference are gonna be a huge key here. Also, KP's patience, which seemed to be the whole of what he was working on against Rubio, will be the other big key. Pavlik must not sway from staying outside and blasting with jabs and long shots, then when AA does explode hopefully he'll be to far away to reach with any thing damaging.:yep

 

Banana man, lol.

 

Been trying to tell Boo that.

 

Well those are the sort of benefits you get when you're in your backyard. I doubt it'll work as effective if Abraham comes to MSG or w/e the fight is.

Anyways someone mentioned Pavlik coming forward and I think against Abraham the more you force, the more open you are for a mistake. While Pavlik certainly shouldn't switch his entire game up...he should be cautious when coming forward. He should let Abraham **** himself up when Arthur comes forward all covered up, let your hands go and pile up easy points. If Abraham sits on the ropes, step in and carefully pile up MORE points with quick work. Body work is essential because attacking the turtle shell might dilute the success you're having. The knockout won't come early (I doubt it comes at all) so just score as many points as you can in the first 2 minutes. Then when Abraham breaks out of the shell in the last minute, tie him up as quick as possible and prevent Abraham to get in his riddum going. Avoid any major trading (because Abraham has one punch power and Pavlik's chin is shaky) because if you do as said in the first two minutes nothing short of an offensive explosion will give Abraham the round.

By round 7 or 8, Abraham will likely be down on points needing a stoppage or needing something big to change the tide of the fight. IF you want to go for the KO then that would be the time as Abraham will be desperate and looking for something strong. Caution is of course the key but a well timed right over the top would do wonders for Pavlik. That said at that point you don't want to coast but using your superior boxing ability and jab should ward Abraham off long enough to get a decision win.

The best example would probably be Paul Williams-Margarito. Tieing up Margarito before he would go for these big combinations was a great strategy.

 

What Kelly Pavlik absolutely never does (on purpose) is capatilizing on other fighters mistakes, I mean do you even read what you write down? All he knows is going forward and set most (but not all) attacks by the jab, and he's damn good and effective doing that. IF there's an opening and he lands, he's landing because he's busy and has long arms. But he's creating the openings most of the time.

Capatilzing on the other fighter's mistakes was what Hopkins did to him.

 

Is this fight ever going to be made......main page said AA has big problems with MW and will move up.....looks like we should be talking about another guy for Pavilk.....maybe Sturm

 

Watch what happens when Abraham starts pawing away at Pavlik's body with his "jab." watch what happens when AA lunges in with his head and shoulders out past his feet, and watch what happens when he backs up with his hands down. McKart left his left elbow to far from his body, and Pavlik did what no one else ever did; he knocked McKart out. That's a small mistake compared to the stuff AA does. Miranda can't fight off the back foot. Taylor kept his left to low. The list goes on and on.

 

Under the right circumstances Arthur could probably spark anybody at 160-168, with the possible exception of Anrade.

Pavlik has been in with some decent punchers in Zuniga, Zertuche, and Miranda, and a 185 pound version of Bhop used his head for a speed bag for 12 rounds. We know for sure that Kelly can take a shot. Arthur is a different story. In his entire career Miranda is still the only big puncher AA has faced, and if KP hurt AA the way Miranda did in the first fight, he would have definitely closed the show.

So, the real question is not about raw power. The real question is about the effective use of power. Can Arthur create the right circumstances? Given his stylistic and physical disadvantages in this fight, I say "No."

 

Pavlik was wobbled and jacked up by Hopkins, he was dropped by Zuniga (I believe) and was dropped by Taylor.

He can take a punch sure but he can also be hurt. So while he's not chinny, he doesn't have the best punch resistance either.

 

Kelly has been knocked down 3 times. He was only hurt once. Personally, I think he has balance issues; to much time with his feet in the wrong place at the wrong time.