thoughts on Margarito vs Cintron battles, assuming Tony loaded up

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  1. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The whole thing where he was mocking Cintron for crying, in the build up for the second fight. To do that and know you won the first won with loaded gloves........then to beat the man down again with loaded gloves and then, as he is lying there on the canvas to gesture to him to get up and take more of a beating, knowing full well that you are the real coward, and not him.

    I can't prove this is what happened, I am only thinking about complete lack of character it takes to do something like this. The irony of it all. Here you are mocking someone else's tears and mocking them for losing again, yet in reality you are a thousand times the coward, but the whole time your fans are screaming for you thinking you are some courageous champion daring Cintron to get back up.......

    and to think that these commissions would allow something like this over and over to happen, and it takes Nazim to set things right.

    again, I don't know that this is what really happened, I am just thinking how gross it is if indeed it is the truth.
     
  2. TheJuggernaut

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  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:The line of bashing Margarito the last couple of days has been that he's been a second half fighter because he needed that time for the plaster in his wraps to harden.......
    .....the reasoning has been that Cotto was clearly getting the better of Margarito in the first half of the fight......



    .......yet against Cintron, we have a fighter that Margarito dominated from start to finish, and both times stopped him before the halfway point......
    .....yet the claim now is that it was Margarito's loaded gloves!:rofl:rofl:nut
     
  4. sinner78

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    I agree with your statements.
    Ironically now Margarito is the one who is crying according to Freddie Roach. He turned up at his gym crying "plez help me .plez plez "
     
  5. littlefloyd

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    well he does have a point as margo's career is in question now
     
  6. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lets assume for a moment that the theory is true (although I don't necessarily agree with it) that he is a slow starter because it takes time for the substance to harden, just because he got to Cintron quicker, it doesn't necessarily make that theory incorrect. And he still didn't finish him either time in the first few rounds. 5 rounds and 6 rounds. That isn't exactly instant. Besides, Margarito also blasted out Golden Johnson and Shotgun Gomez, does that mean he did not have loaded gloves? No.

    It is difficult to believe that the Mosley fight would be the first fight he would cheat in. It makes more sense that he would have done it numerous times before.

    Also, you are missing the point of my thread, which wasn't to argue about whether it was true or not, but to reflect upon the audacity of his actions (mocking the tears and calling for Cintron to rise back up and fight at the end of the rematch) if it is true. This isn't some outlandish hypothetical sense there is a very good chance it is true.

    I find the irony here immense if it is. Telling someone to get back up after you just beat the crap out of them with loaded gloves.
     
  7. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks for upping my thread. :good
     
  8. roscoe

    roscoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't just start to do it. I believe he's been loaded since the williams loss. Mosley just showed everyone how overrated marg was & is. I'm disgusted in him.
     
  9. threethirteen

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    I think he just had the hard-punching, but limited, Cintron's number and it was the same in the second fight. I certainly agree that, since the Williams fight, he seemed to have a lot more weight on his punches.
     
  10. divac

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    I just dont buy this crap that he's been cheating all along......eseciallly in big fight scenarios like the Cotto fight where the commission is supposed to send their best, and the opposing side is their to inspect as well.

    Freddie Roach said it the other day.....he said he'd find it virtually impossible for a fighter to load his gloves against one of his fighters.....Freddie is always the one that inspects the wrappings of his fighters opponent, and Freddie said, "I'm a complete ***** when it comes to the do's and dont's of a fighter wrapping his hands.
    If he can disrupt a fighter wrapping his hands at any point, he will.

    Here are fighters like Cotto and Cintron crying about it and asking for Margarito to be banned permanently, when they should be discarding thier trainers for not inspecting and doing their job.

    Nazim Richardson did his job....thats what he was there for......where the hell was Cotto's trainer and all the rest of those trainers that would claim Margarito cheated against them.

    The thread is pointless because there is absolutely no proof that Mararito cheated against any fighter.
     
  11. therealdeal

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    I don't buy the Margarito slow start theory. Margarito obviously changed his strategy after the Williams fight. After the Williams fight when he lost due to giving away too many early rounds, he became a fast starter thereafter against Johnson, Cintron 2 and Cotto.

    Now, to go back to the Cintron supposition, I think Margarito ruined Cintron as a fighter. Broke his confidence completely. But, I don't think it was glove related. It was Tony's chin. Cintron threw everything he had at Margarito and he went nowhere. And Cintron isn't mentally equipped to handle a 12 round brawl.

    One question I haven't seen posed. If the assumption is made about Margarito having cheated for a while now, doesn't this Raise Paul Williams stock significantly? Not only did he have to face Margarito's loaded gloves, but, he won a 12 round fight against him, took his plaster wrapped hands thru late in the fight when it would have hardened and then came back to take the last round against him to seal the win.
     
  12. FINITO

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    YAWN.. Leave the man alone. He's going to serve his punishment.
     
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  14. JasonChaos27

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    This clown is a psych majors wet dream. His behavior is that of an infatuated school boy.Even after evidence was shown that Margarito had indeed elements of plaster of paris, instead of even acknowledging it. he immediately started asking questions about sulfer and other substaces coming through sweat etc etc. Basically looking for any excuse to backwards rationlize his homosexual crush's cheating actions.

    Then, looks for reasons and ways to explain that he could not possibly have ever cheated before that. Instead, falls back on the "theres no proof" excuse. There wasnt enough proof to convict OJ but we all know he did it. Systems can and will be manipulated.

    Now, Roach has come out and stated he is training Margo etc etc. Now this dickhead hops on Roach's nutsack quoting him to back up his bull**** explanations and blaming it on other trainers. This actually isnt even healthy behavior. It leads to obsession and stalking.

    Is there really nothing more going on in your life other than looking for any way and any straw to grasp at to try and exonorate the man of your homoerotic dreams? :roll:
     
  15. jamel

    jamel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I want to see a Cintron v Margo rematch with Cintron being allowed to wear loaded gloves identical to Margo's. lets give him some of his own medicine. LOL