Who Wins: JC Chavez or Manny Pacquiao?

i have mad respect for Osuna who is one of the smartest analysts in the game but i'm gonna disagree on this one. Chavez by decision.

 

wow...now we are talking about pacquiao a potential 8 division champion...hahaha

 

que?

 

no mexican can have the better of pacquiao today...the best hope just cheated and now a potential sparring mate of pac at the wildcard gym

 

JMM would beg to differ. :smoke

 

he had his chances, not once but twice, but he blew it by kissing the canvas...

 

Blew it my ass. Everyone other than Pac fans who don't know how to score a fight know he won their last fight.. and if given the opportunity JMM would beat him again... and hopefully get credit for it this time.

PEACE!

 

exactly

 

cry baby my ass... :good:good

 

The audience

lol

right?

... right?

Please tell me I'm right...

 

You gotta be serious, how in hell do you compare whitaker with pacquaio? Whitaker was so much more defensive all around better fighter... he wasnt as agressive as pac but he cotrolled the ring so much better he is the only one who really made Chavez look bad and Chavez wasnt in his prime now you can say whatever chavez was loosing the fight against Taylor but the point is that he didnt loose the fight he knock the **** out of taylor, just remember Taylor ended bleeding internally, with broken ribs, with broken facial bones and permanently damaged but YES I agree he was winning the fight until the 11th but do you seriously think what Taylor took to get to the 12th I mean all that damage all that internal bleeding, broken ribs etc Pacquiao is able to take it? You gotta be kidding if you think pacquiao is able to take that damage in a fight he might be winning for a few rounds but he would be knockout I have no doubt about it, Pacquiao is good but at lightweight Chavez would knock the **** out of him... simple just answer yourself if Pacquiao would be able to take a damage like Taylor did to get to the 12th winning dont tell me No but Chavez would never catch him you know he would prime Chavez was pretty fast, the one of the 80s... now JMM put pacquiao in danger more than a couple times imagine what Chavez would do in his natural weight... Dont get me wrong I like pacquiao he is very good but just not in the same caliber and worst if its not in his natural weight...

 

Pacquiao would knock chavez in least than 2 rounds

 

manny is a terrific fighter and has hugely improved his technical game in every sense under freddie roach--and probably saved his career from grating, slow-death brawler hell in doing so. however, at lightweight, which is where i assume we are imagining this match takes place, chavez was--though people so often forget this because of his chin and his bloody mexican brass balls style of willful engagement--a really sharp, accurate boxer who, at lightweight, was not a walking target, he rolled and moved with and off punches really well (and, yes, walked through them when he had to). i think chavez was, at 135, at least as slick as manny. the only question is whether pacman's speed advantage overcomes chavez' raw strength and unshakable, unrelenting grinding. if pacman is willing to weave in and out all night, maybe he has a shot, but if he gets bent on hurting chavez, he gets mauled, beaten to the body which leads to the head and slows him down and probably drops a wide unanimous decision. if we bring the intangibles that make a great fighter, manny just isn't punching his weight anymore against chavez. i mean, give pac man his due, he is one of the best fighters of his generation and keeps proving his doubters wrong, but we are just talking about two completely different animals here.

 

Considering Chavez was at his best at Lightweight, and Pacquiao has campaigned in or around 135lb recently, we should assume that is the weight the two fighters will do battle at.

There seems to be a misconception after Pacquiao's last two fights that he is a master boxer, and will use the jab on the outside to get the better of his opponents. His left hands was beautiful against De La Hoya, but a prime Chavez at 135lb is an entirely different assignment. Julio will be in close, throwing to the body and head, and rather than running on the back foot, I envision Manny meeting Chavez head to head. In that kind of inside fight, where both fighters are throwing combination's, I think the winner will be the tougher more willful fighter. Seldom has there been a tougher and more willful fighter than Julio Cesar Chavez. Manny doesn't like to shorten his shots, and his punch resistance is not on the level of a Chavez. The last time we saw Manny in such a confrontation was arguably against Agapito Sanchez, a fighter who is a couple of levels below Chavez, who had Manny in all sorts of distress.

Julio stops Pacquiao in the later rounds.

In regards to the video referencing such fighters as Pernell Whitaker and Meldrick Taylor, I don't see too many similarities between Mann y and those two. Meldrick Taylor was naturally bigger than Manny, and not only had even faster hands than Pacquiao, but he was a combination puncher. It's sometimes lost in translation, but Manny, although he has very fast hands, he very rarely puts together a dazzling combination. It was Meldrick's ability to do this throughout the course of the fight that had him ahead, until he succombed to Chavez's right hand in the 12th and final round. As for Pernell Whitaker, he is defensively far superior to Manny, had a better left hand, one of the greatest jabs in history, and could fight off the back foot. So many differences to Manny it was not even worth bringing him up.