Who Wins: JC Chavez or Manny Pacquiao?

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  1. cpnasty

    cpnasty Fight Fan 83 Full Member

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    I'm actually a fan of Pac, and I'll admit that I thought he won the first fight. Poor job by the judge.
     
  2. harrison

    harrison feu-nrmf md 2005 Full Member

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    whatever dude. this is mythical match up. every delusional grandiose is welcome. chavez is not a counter puncher like jmm. pac would blitz him and over power him. pacquiao tko him in 8. ;) peace out
     
  3. cpnasty

    cpnasty Fight Fan 83 Full Member

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    He's not blitzing Chavez. Chavez might be the best pressure fighter ever. Pac is not going to be able to keep Chavez off of him. There is no evidence that a young Chavez was capable of getting knocked out, or knocked down for that matter. When he fought Randall, he was past his prime.
     
  4. riggers

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    Chavez would destroy Manny. Body shots, head shots, relentless educated pressure. Anyone who thinks Pac stops JCC is deluded. Not a chance. Chavez inside 6
     
  5. Bystander

    Bystander Sensible Kibitzer Full Member

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    so if i think pacquiao wins this, i'm deluded?:patsch

    For crying out loud, this is a ****ing mythical match up!:lol:

    and what's with "relentless educated pressure"? :huh

    trying to sound intelligent eh?

    "controlled aggression" would be the right term for that, what do you think?:hey
     
  6. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Controlled aggression or relentless educated pressure. I think my phrase describes what i am thinking whereas yours describes what you think i am thinking. I don't think they are the same thing. You can have controlled aggression in spurts, Chavez was relentless and his attacks were very educated or calculated. Pressure and aggression are not the same thing.

    I also said anyone who thinks PAc STOPS JCC is deluded. Not just beats him.

    If i wanted to sound intelligent i would use icons and smileys at the end of each sentence !
     
  7. Bystander

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    "relentless pressure" is by itself redundant already.

    and how in the world would you be able to apply an "educated pressure" in a "relentless" manner?:huh

    that statement is completely and utterly illogical, to say the least.:lol:

    and would you care to further explain how people who think that pacquiao could stop chavez be deluded? come to think of it, this is just but a "Mythical Match-up" and all opinions must be entertained and not ruled out.:-(

    and lastly your sarcasm doesn't help even a bit to make a stronger claim for you to sound intelligent just the same.:lol:

    icons and smileys were made available so why not use them? :deal
     
  8. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    "relentless pressure" is by itself redundant already. ...... This makes no sense.

    and how in the world would you be able to apply an "educated pressure" in a "relentless" manner?..... thats why JCC was so good, he could apply pressure relentlessly in an educated way.

    and could you care to further explain how people who think that pacquiao could stop chavez be deluded? come to think of it, this is just but a "Mythical Match-up" and all opinions must be entertained and not ruled out................. do you mean would i care to explain ? Chavez beat bigger punchers in Rosario, Mayweather , Ramirez etc than the vastly overrated ( at 140 lbs ) Pac. Pac has yet to beat a top fighter at a weight above 130lbs. He also struggled hugely , and in my opinion lost to JMM at 130.

    and lastly your sarcasm doesn't help even a bit to make a stronger claim for you to sound intelligent just the same................. i don't speak fluent gibberish but i think i get what you are trying to say.

    icons and smileys were made available so why not use them? .......... So were capital letters and a variety of punctuation marks.
     
  9. DON1

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    Pacman is great but Chavez is greater. A peak Chavez would buzzsaw Pacman.
     
  10. Bystander

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    i'm in awe for your lack of understanding. What in the word redundant don't you understand?:huh

    jcc applies pressure in an educated way? sounds funny to me. it doesn't sound quite right. try rephrasing it next time.:think

    jcc beating bigger punchers is by no means an assurance that he can't be stopped by pacquiao. it doesn't prove anything by the way. and in my own opinion, pacquiao won the 2 fights with jmm and both of them struggled with each other. because that's how great they both were. it doesn't make them less of a great fighter, either.:hey

    i don't sound gibberish at all. just ask politely if you can't seem to comprehend some of the more basic and simpler things i say.:yep

    and tell me if you need me to walk you through on how to use smileys and icons. i'll try to schedule you a session.:hi:
     
  11. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can be in awe 'of' my lack of understanding, but not for it. The word redundant i understand, your sentence and its context i don't. I was describing JCCs style, so the more detail the better, thus not redundant.

    Applying pressure in an educated way, is a fairly well used term. If it sounds funny to you, laugh !

    You do write gibberish, everything you say is simple , like yourself.

    I expect you were a Bystander when brains were handed out.

    PS you don't need to use the word 'and' to start a sentence.
     
  12. Bystander

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    if you don't understand the context of my sentence, then that's one big problem of yours that you can keep, simply because no one else sees it that way other than you.:yep

    I did laugh at that statement of yours, just so you know.:lol:

    Honestly, I don't see any problem with being simple. It seems to me you have a ton of insecurities that hasn't been unloaded yet that's why complication means everything to you.:good

    "I expect you were a Bystander when brains were handed out"

    ..and throwing a low insulting statement like that one proves my previous statement all the more.:-(

    ..and putting up a post-script that's totally irrelevant to what we're discussing makes you the most disturbed and insecured poster of this thread.:rofl

    CONGRATS for being owned by a simpleton like me!:good

    Bye friend. Gotta go. Till the next......OWNAGE!!!:bbb
     
  13. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bystander 'disturbed and insecured' more gibberish.

    The context debate, my god, made no sense because what you quoted me on was incorrect. Thus you were speaking out of context, which i did not understand. Am i getting through to you yet ?

    Using bold text does not add validity to what you say. It just shows you know how to change font size etc well done.

    I love the way you take offence to being called simple, but the first thing you said to me was 'trying to sound intelligent eh'. Even though you had misread my post. " and throwing a low insulting statement like that one proves my previous statement all the more." so as you initiated ( that means started ) the insults , what does it prove ?

    Ownage ........... hardly. You have not proved anything, apart from your low level grasp of the English language.

    Now i realise you are stupid/simple whatever, but please stop proving it ! I believe you, you are stupid. Jog On
     
  14. artofwar

    artofwar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dont be stupid if you score the fight properly you have a case for both winning, the kd made the difference, why cant you marquez fanboys get that through your thick skulls.

    because crybaby marquez thinks its a robbery it doesn't mean it is, marquez is a whinning sore lose now dont follow suit.

    pac rnds 1 3 4 7 9 10 i keep posting my scores, prove to me that pac did not win those rounds!
     
  15. dangerousity

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    I'll wait to see see how Pac handles Hatton to make an analysis on this one. Hatton is no Chavez but he is bigger and faster, Hatton himself would have given Chavez a very tough fight. If Pac blows Hatton away which I think is a good posibility, id favour Pac over Chavez at 135.