Roberto Duran v. Alexis Arguello at 135?

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  1. gooners!!

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    I think Arguello was after a fight with Duran, but it never happened for what ever reason. I know there was a lot of talk about it before Arguello's fight with Fernandez, but he lost that fight. Im not sure that was the reason it did not happen though, because i dont think it was for Arguello's title. PS i think Arguello would of won the fight, if it had been a 15 round fight, then again i think Duran would of beaten De Jesus the first time, if that had been a 15 round fight.

    Duran is too good on the inside for Arguello. Arguello was not bad on the inside, but he was uncomfortable there. Duran along with Pernell Whitaker was probably one of the best inside fighters of all time, but not just at close quarters he was also good from mid range. He used very good upper body movement and then he would effectively counter, its one of the reasons he was able to stand with Davey Moore and Iran Barkley.

    Arguello did have a lethal counter left hook though.........he knocked Olivares out with it when Olivares was winning the fight, and he knocked Escalera out with it. Arguello was a viscous body puncher to.

    With Arguello you gotta get inside his power like Pryor did. If you stay on the end of his punches where he can meassure you. You end up canvased like Rooney,Costello.
     
  2. NALLEGE

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    I loved both fighters style. But Duran would not let Arguello breathe. Duran not only could take your best shot, he could give you his best back while you are planning your next best shot. Duran knew your best was coming, and he still countered, it, slipped it or took it. Duran losing to Dejesus who jabbed, threw quick punches, and then held was a good style to fight for Duran 10 rounds... As you get worn down, as Dejesus did in their last two fights, that is when Duran is at his best.
     
  3. PernellSweetPea

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    I go with Arguello. Duran never could have a good answer for a right hand. But the guys he fought never had great right hands until Hearns fought him, and Hearns was the best and fastest anyone had. Arguello did not have the right hand of Thomas Hearns, but it was good. I think Arguello hits Duran over and over with it and knocks him out about round 5
     
  4. Sweet Pea

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    Damn. You've got a lot to learn son.
     
  5. booradley

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    This thread really serperates the men from the boys.:yep

    There is some very good discussion of how this fight might have looked, most picking Duran in a good scrap. And then there is a **** load of ******ed stuff.
     
  6. PernellSweetPea

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    yeah it does. And you guys do not know enough about boxing to make decision on what is the truth and what is a made up legend. Duran was good but he ate the right hand when he fought a guy who threw it. Hearns pasted him with it numerous times and that was no mistake and not due to Duran not being in shape. Arguello had a good right hand also and Duran never fought a guy who would have put that right hand on him like Arguello until he did fight Thomas Hearns. Hearns had a great right better than Arguellos, but Arguello would have landed his right hand. Pryor was faster than Duran. I see Arguello stopping Duran in 5 or 6. Learn to have your own opinion. Duran's competition at lightweight does not have anyone there who was in the league of Arguello. Learn boxing.
     
  7. PernellSweetPea

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    Arguello would not have been one of those bums Duran fought at lightweight like Lampkin who would have gone down. Duran also stopped many guys late who were bums. Arguello would have measured off the right and hit Duran at will. You guys believe whatever people tell you. Duran was overrated.
     
  8. booradley

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    First: Arguello is #1 on my list of all time favorites.

    Second: I am a former amature boxer,and have been a fan since Clay/Liston I.

    Third: SHUT THE **** UP NOOB!
     
  9. JMP

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    dear PernellSweetPea:

    please die.

    thanks :good
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  10. NALLEGE

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    Duran was only stopped by a right hand from Hearns at Hearns best weight. Arguello would not be able to sit back and box if he fought Duran at 135. Sorry, but you fail, and to say Alexis stops the naturally bigger Duran who is maybe thee best lw who ever lived is comical for sane fans to read.
     
  11. PernellSweetPea

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    EleanorRigby or whoever you are. You shut the f*ck up idiot fool. You are former amatuer because you couldn't make it as a pro. You are not a fan of Arguello or you would know he would beat Duran. Duran was not the fighter everyone thinks he is. He never beat any ATG fighters in his lightweight era-his lightweight reign was terrible. You think Lampkin is the level of Arguello? And you know boxing? Shutup and go nuthug your dad somemore.
     
  12. MRBILL

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    When I was a teenie bopper boxing in my school days / daze, I bought into all that crap of guys being shot physically by age 30. After all, when you are 16 or 17 yrs old, 30 seems kinda' old.. 30 is only old for guys who partied hardy or never learned defense and put too much strain on their body...

    In my book, 30 is old for a fighter like Ray Manincini, but not really all that bad for a classy boxer / puncher like Alexis Arguello... People can debate and argue all they want about Arguello being past it or over-trained for his 1982 epic war with Aaron Pryor, but I think Alexis Arguello was lean and mean and primed-up real good at age 30 and at 138 1/2 pounds... He just got beat by a younger guy who was on a mission and full of **** and vinegar...... I DOUBT that Pryor and Lewis had a liquid form of Cocaine in the famous black bottle in their corner, however, a mix of some type of additive and seltzer with glucose seems reasonable to believe..... Is that really cheating? Not really, but it's against the rules....

    MR.BILL:deal:admin:bbb:good:hat
     
  13. booradley

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    :****
     
  14. NALLEGE

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  15. Sweet Pea

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    Damn, it really sucks that the latest village idiot had to be a Sweet Pea fan. Talk about giving us a bad name.