David Haye: Dream Fight At A Cost?

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  1. KCD

    KCD All aboard. Full Member

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    Waay much better than most:good

    It pisses me off when people overlook Wlads career and concentrate on Ibragimov and talk as though Haye has never been in a dull fight.

    Well i say just take a look at Haye v Ismail Abdoul.....awful
     
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  2. box3r86

    box3r86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ok i see your point there, however, thats business.

    I dont know you as a poster here, but there are some ridiculous posters who say Haye is getting killed, not worth a shot at the titel and doesnt deserve this or that.

    My point here is that Wlad obviously has contemplated defeat along the way.

    Or else why put in the rematch clause and extra fight with vitali, and if some guys on here are to be believed then haye cant sell out his hometown! (even tho the 20,000 seater o2 has beeen packed twice recentky) which suggests he doestnt bring money to the table......so why would you wnat to fight him 2/3 times k2 promotions!?

    because they know there is real a possibility of losing.

    That makes unbias sense surely!?
     
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  3. ninebar

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    Both these guys could hit the deck, Difference being Wlad will stay on the Deck:yep:hey:smoke
     
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  4. CHEF

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    I understand about posters... I have no problem with you... bad posters on both sides of the fence:yep:good

    All I know is Wlad saying business is business.... Im not in wlads head, but if I know wlad... losing has not crossed his mind. If he says its business, thats what I go with
     
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  5. CHEF

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    i knew you would say that:lol:
     
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  6. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    just think...we have 2 1/2 more months of this.... Im already tired....:yep:yep

    Bring it on Haye boys:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb
     
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  7. box3r86

    box3r86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So why add the rematch and Vitali?

    If Haye doesn't bring money to the table (which is the business reason behind taking all money except setanta which is subscription not ppv) why do K2 want a possible 3 fights with him?
     
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  8. KCD

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    No i didnt want to try to teach you to suck eggs that is why i said you would know what im getting at.

    All the fighters you mentioned had fought the best at multiple weights and where all P4P entrants, and future HOF.

    Haye has fought 2 heavyweights yes, Tomasz Bonin:-( and then a shot Monte Barrett and it still took him roughly the same time to stop him that it did for Wlad to stop a young Barrett. Neither fighters where ranked in the top ten, or shouldnt have been.

    Plus yes Haye was a Cruiserweight champion but he wasnt undisputed:nono if he wanted to fight the best prior to him heading for the heavies then he should have fought Cunningham for the IBF title, instead of Enzo who if you class that as a great win for Haye then you may have to reconsider after his last fight.

    And as Chefs post clear up imo what has been going on with the contracts.
     
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  9. KCD

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    But Wlads never been dropped off a super middleweight......Mock:yep:hey:smoke:good
     
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  10. hugo

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    Aside from the money issue it seems fair - and it plays into Hayes hands. He wants to fight Vitali after Wlad after all.
     
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  11. CHEF

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    Haye wanted to lock up a fight with vitali.. possible unification....

    becuase if Haye wins.. a fight with Vitali will make huge dollars for BOTH guys. Who knows what the % breakdown will be then... but Im sure Haye as Champ will make out very very well
     
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  12. box3r86

    box3r86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So what if they are HOF they are not lightweights, they were featherweights. You have to admit a 3 time world champ with the ring belt has clout to move up a division in this day and age and fight for a world title.

    Just give it up, its ridiculous i can and you can too think of loads of examples, e.g Joan Guzman!!! former super bantam then interim feather and all of a sudden gets a shot at campbell, wba, wbo and ibf champ. now defend that case pal.

    you know where im coming from and that im not talking mental nuthugger talk.

    btw cunnningham is a sd cruiser who got knocked down and beat (by a guy who your a fan) by a guy who 175 skinny couldnt sell a ticket to save my life dawson. really are u includin macca or cunnignham,


    he beat and KO'd mormeck in his backyard who was UNDOUBTEDLY the best in the division.
     
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  13. CHEF

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    Haye(if he wins), vitali, and Wlad are the big money tickets. they all stand to make big money by fighting eachother (not Wlad Vitali... Haye fighting both). Where else would Haye make that kind of $$.. Povetkin, Arreola, Valuev.... no way
     
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  14. box3r86

    box3r86 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I can deal with that as long as the money involved is different to the wlad fight and im sure its why haye signed!

    If not then like i said . . . the stranglehold continues.

    Oh and what you and the fellow wlad supporter weer talkin about earlier,

    Its not just the ibragimov fight, its the thompson fight, the rahman fight when wlad is meant to be no.1 in the marquee division and its just boring to watch.

    Ok your gonna say well rahman Ko'd lewis, but we've all heard the rubbish prep and altitude **** with lewis. but he still sparked rahman out in the rematch spectacularly. Wlad is missing this with his safety first fighting. you cant deny that. its so frustrating because he posses such good KO power!
     
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  15. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    David Haye has a legitimate case for having an essentially immediate shot at the number 1 HW based on other lower weight champions stepping up to fight their equivalent in the higher weight classes.
     
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