So if Haye beats Wlad, who would he want to fight next to make the most money? Wlad and Vit.... So whats the problem???? Haye will hve been as happy as a pig in **** to agree to those options.
I honestly think that Wlad fears this fight with Haye...Haye is the kind of fighter that Steward has said would give Wlad problems..Fast hands good power... With that being said, I think that Haye will get knocked out by Wlad and this will all be a muted point.
What is so surprising about a rematch clause? The only thing different in this contract is that David Haye himself has said for months that he wanted to fight Vitali as well... and they worked out a deal to where he can fight him too. This gives David Haye a shot at the IBF, WBO, WBC, IBO, and Ring Magazine Titles.... as well as the title of undisputed Champion. Along with with 3 huge paydays. Can someone please explain to me why this is a bad thing for Haye? Getting an all in one shot at everything? Do you honestly think that there is any fight out there that Haye would go for if he beat Wlad twice, than fighting Vitali Klitschko next? Do you think that Haye would have rather stopped and fought Povetkin in between? Hell no... this was the best thing that could happen for Haye.
Can you please explain to me why David Haye was saying 2 months ago that he was working on a great deal to fight both brothers. That this was what he wanted because he has to beat them both to become the true Champion? Can you tell me why he was saying that two months ago if it was something that he doesn't want?
Let's say that Haye beat Wlad and was a free agent: he would have leverage in negotiations with Vitali (who'd want to avenge his brother) so he could negotiate a very good financial deal. Or maybe he would want another fight between the two, given how difficult facing both brothers one after the other would be (ie. facing the two best boxers in the division one after the other). Also, Haye hasn't got a guarantee that he'll get to fight Vitali after this. He's no closer to a fight with Vitali than before these negotiations began. Haye has basically taken up a terrible deal just so that he can fight Wlad. All people have to do is acknowledge this fact, give Haye just a LITTLE credit for giving boxing fans this fight, and wait for the fireworks.
You have clearly misunderstood the nature of the agreement. Read the thread and then get back to me; I'm not going to explain things just for you.
Or maybe I will explain it just a little: this isn't a rematch clause. A rematch clause is a rematch clause. This is an options deal.
He's not going to be able to defend the IBF belt against Povetkin because he'll be re-matching Wlad again, so he'll get stripped of that and there is no telling what will happen with thw WBO and WBC belts while he's goint through all the fights. Even if he wins them all the division could still be fragmented at the end of it all.
You have never heard of an immediate rematch clause before? They happen to be very common. Were you unaware of the contract between Lewis and Rahman that forced Rahman right back into the ring with Lewis in his very next fight? These things are VERY common. The next option is actually exactly what Haye wanted. Should Haye beat Wlad twice, he then gets a shot at Vitali for all the marbles. Please explain to me why on earth this is bad for Haye? It is not a sure thing that Haye will be stripped of the IBF if he can't fight Povetkin right away. It is also very common for organizations to grant extensions for matters like this. Rematching the fallen champ and unification. Also, it wouldn't be surprising to see Povetkin agree to step aside and let the Klitschkos vs Haye saga play out with the assurance that he will be the first in line to get a shot at the Undisputed Champion that emerges between them. Which would also be the best case scenario for Povetkin. You guys are making this into something that it's not. Lennox Lewis immediately fragmented his titles after he won them, and he did it on purpose. Did it matter? Was he not still considered the true Champion because he didn't lose those belts in the ring? David Haye would still be considered the true Champ in the end if he won it all.
I'd assume (but may well be wrong) that the conditions for Haye-Wlad II and Haye-Vit will be negotiated after Haye wins the title and will be more benifical to Haye than the upcomming Wlad fight??? I like Haye but I think people should try to look behind the headlines on this contract. Its nowhere near as bad as it looks at first glance.
It's not a rematch clause- A rematch clause: if you beat boxer A, either you or boxer A can force the other to partake in a rematch. An options deal: you fight boxer A; you then fight two opponents of the promoters' (in this case, the Klitschko brothers) choosing. Notice the difference? Haye could end up fighting Tomasz Bonin and Monte Barrett in rematches after this (with promoter's fees going to the Klitschko brothers) if Wlad and Vitali choose it. Obviously that won't happen, but that's the nature of the contract. It's NOT a rematch clause and it's NOT very common.
actualy my friend they will not be for all the marbles like you say because if that does pan out like that he will not have a title left their will be 2 world titles vacant and if you didnt know the divison is already in the shitters this clever move those two goofs have pulled doesnt help one bit = fragmented division no clear no.1 heavyweight