Prime Mike Tyson vs. Prime Vitali Klitschko

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Tyson would eat his cornflakes out of VKs skull.

    VK is good but he is not that good.
     
  2. Danny

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    Vitali would be hit more often than he's ever been hit before. Punches would be coming from all angles, combinations. Key thing about a prime Tyson was that he didn't waste too many punches!

    Vitali would not be able to deal with volume of punches. Speed kills & Vitali does not come anywhere near Mike in this & many other aspects!

    Tyson would make Vitali look slow, ponderous in comparison!
     
  3. teeto

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    Tyson for me is someone i dearly luv, but i must say that style-wise this is hard for him imo. Vitali is tough as nails and on his best performances dominates the centre of the ring, im not saying that Vitali will win it, i can't because he is not proven enough at a great level, and while some may argue they are not convinced Tyson is either, i think we can agree that prime Tyson is a thing of greatness. That is the basic reason i pick Tyson, because i haven't seen substantial evidence to give the bout to Vitali, but i think the style matchup is not too great for Mike personally.

    I think if Tyson wins this it is going to be done via the fact that his tangible assets are greater than Vitali's, as in speed more than anything else, Mike will need to be very sharp and beat his man to the punch, and take advantage of anything sloppy coming from Vitali. If he achieves this perfect performance and is consistent throuhout the fight he would be able to win on points. But i think more often than not in this bout Tyson may need to produce real goods and get a stoppage.

    Vitali is always there in the middle of the ring and is tough as nails
     
  4. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if we're talking an 85-86 Tyson with Rooney in the corner I can see him stopping Vit with body punches
     
  5. jones1

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    Tyson takes this one.
     
  6. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Volume of punches? Tyson hardly threw 40 a round, even in the 80's. By constrast, Vitali averages over 70, although they don't have "knockout" written on them like Tyson's do.

    If anything, i think this would be a very competitive fight with Tyson taking an early lead but Klitschko coming on late in the fight, to a close decision. Perhaps similar to the Tucker fight, but without Klitschko going into survival mode.
     
  7. MRBILL

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    I'm bold..... Klit too much for Tyson...... Tyson quits on his stool after 8 rds......

    MR.BILL
     
  8. PowerPuncher

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    Tyson is just too fast and would rip holes on Vitali's defense. You can't lean back against Tyson to avoid being hit, because hes too fast and throws in combination. Vitali wouldn't land the jab either, Tyson slips it too well.

    Tyson KO5 - speed kills and it'd be 1 way traffic, people think Vitali's unknockoutable, he isn't, Holmes looked unknockoutable outside of his Tyson fight too.
     
  9. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    He looked hard to stop but not unknockoutable. Snipes was not really much of a puncher yet he had Holmes nearly out. Shavers too, though he did carry a huge wallop of course. I'm not sure if he hit harder than Lewis and Sanders though, both of whom landed their best shot against Vitali, and neither managed to floor him. Both were a bit old, but power is the last thing to go.

    On top of that, Holmes was old against Tyson.
     
  10. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Prime Mike would stop prime Vitali between the 5th and 8th round...in my opinion.
     
  11. JohnThomas1

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    I like Tyson by stoppage in about 5 rounds. IMO his early heat would get him home tho it's certainly open for debate.
     
  12. Andyw

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    I like Mike in this one. His speed, head and upper body movement would get him inside klits long arms where he could pound away to the body and then fire the uppercuts and hooks. KO around 6-8.
     
  13. MRBILL

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    Not to sound racial, but I know damn well the "Bloods" in the Hood who are between the ages of 30 to 45 will never let Mike Tyson go.... Them dudes got a firm grip on Tyson's nut-sack.... Okay, I can deal with that.... However, the fact that they praise him like God is what really scares me.....

    Reflecting back on the late 1980s heavyweight scene, it is clear to me that Tyson steamrolled a buncha' hasbeens and lazy dudes.... YES! I am talkin' bout "James, Smith, Pinky Thomas, Tony Tucker, Larry Holmes & Tony Tubbs." Larry Holmes really doesn't belong with the rest of the crop, however, he did challenge and fail against Tyson in 1988 on HBO...

    In truth, Tyson's two FRESHEST opponents were: "Biggs & Carl Williams." Neither Biggs or Williams were worn out or shopworn when they challenged Tyson in 1987 and 1989.... Both guys were in great shape physically upon entering the ring against Tyson; mentally they were not fit to really fight Tyson....

    By 1989, Tyson's skills and focus was eroding..... Kevin Rooney was fired and Jimmy Jacobs had recently died.... Bill Cayton was a good guy, but verbally abused and forced out by Don King... Thus, Tyson's moronic side began to surface and come into view with the likes of John Horne, Rory Halloway & Don King by his side....

    I can't really say that Mike Tyson was a great champion or a great person in public; he wasn't.... He was carefully managed by Cus D'Amato, Jimmy Jacobs, Bill Cayton & Kevin Rooney.... Once them guys were out of the picture for one reason or another, Tyson and his career began to come crashing back down to earth..... Tyson never really re-grouped fully...... His comeback from 1995 to 1996 was more financial than physical...

    The rest is history...... The Tyson who fought on until 2005 was a disgrace..... End of story.....

    MR.BILL:deal:bbb:patsch:hi::rasta
     
  14. MRBILL

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    The only blemish on Vitali's Klits record is his 2000 loss to Chris Byrd on Cable TV....... I was also concerned about his "Retiring" after NINE rds of action while ahead..... Hey, it was not my shoulder in there, nor was I gonna see a dime from his purse, so I can't really say what was going through V.K.'s mind back then..... But I was shocked to seem him pack-it-in after the 9th rd...... HOWEVER! All that crap aside, V.K. did comeback and regroup and has done very well as a fighter, champion, and citizen in public.... I like and respect a guy like Vitali Klitschko..... Cheers.....

    MR.BILL

    Note:

    The 2003 TKO loss to Lenny Lewis did not hurt or hinder Klitschko's career at all. If anything, it boosted it upward.... So far, "Lewis-Klit" is still in the top-3 ATG heavyweight fights of the 21st century.......... Runners up: "Liakhovich-Brewster" and "Maskaev-Rahman 2" are right there, as well.........
     
  15. BlackWater

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