My New P4P List, Top 35!

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  1. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    1. Bernard Hopkins
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Manny Pacquiao
    4. Shane Mosley
    5. Miguel Angel Cotto
    6. Ivan Calderon
    7. Vic Darchinyan
    8. Israel Vazquez
    9. Ricky Hatton
    10. Juan Manuel Lopez
    11. Rafael Marquez
    12. Paul Williams
    13. Chad Dawson
    14. Chris John
    15. Nonito Donaire
    16. Kelly Pavlik
    17. Arthur Abraham
    18. Celestino Caballero
    19. Wladimir Klitschko
    20. Edwin Valero
    21. Vitaly Klitschko
    22. Mikkel Kessler
    23. Timothy Bradley
    24. Jorge Linares
    25. Tomasz Adamek
    26. Nate Campbell
    27. David Haye
    28. Joan Guzman
    29. Joshua Clottey
    30. Roman Gonzalez
    31. Andre Berto
    32. Jermaine Taylor
    33. Lucian Bute
    34. Gerry Penalosa
    35. James Kirkland



    Fighters close to top 35 or could be there soon? Sergei Dzindziruk, Sergio Martinez, Raul Garcia, Omar Narvaez, Hozumi Hasegawa, Humberto Soto, Urbano Antillon, Fernando Montiel, Victor Ortiz, Alexander Dimitrenko, Jorge Solis, Chris Arreola, Vernon Forrest, Kendall Holt, Juan Diaz, Ali Funeka, Alexander Povetkin

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I like Miguel Cotto, but as much as his fans will say he is vindicated, the loss to Antonio Margarito happened as a result of function, which was his opponent's resilience and determination. He does not deserve a spot among the top 10 fighters in the world, and Mosley's destruction over Antonio vindicates that, I believe. Just my opinion

    Israel Vasquez has been a lot more consistent than Darchinyan, and has beaten better fighters than Ivan Calderon. He is too low on your list.

    I love the fact Juan Manuel Lopez makes the cut. He is in my top 10, also.

    1. Juan Manuel Marquez
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Bernard Hopkins
    4. Israel Vasquez
    5. Ivan Calderon
    6. Shane Mosley
    7. Vic Darchinyan
    8. Paul Williams
    9. Juan Manuel Lopez
    0. Ricky Hatton
     
  3. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the current top 35 p4p:

    1. Bernard Hopkins / Manny Pacquiao
    3. Juan Manuel Marquez
    4. Miguel Angel Cotto
    5. Shane Mosley
    6. Ivan Calderon
    7. Chad Dawson
    8. Ricky Hatton
    9. Paul Williams
    10. Israel Vazquez
    11. Chris John
    12. Arthur Abraham
    13. Vitaly Klitschko
    14. Wladimir Klitschko
    15. Mikkel Kessler
    16. Kelly Pavlik
    17. Vic Darchinyan
    18. Juan Manuel Lopez
    19. Rafael Marquez
    20. Celestino Caballero
    21. Nonito Donaire
    22. Edwin Valero
    23. Timothy Bradley
    24. Jorge Linares
    25. David Haye
    26. Jermaine Taylor
    27. Tomasz Adamek
    28. Nate Campbell
    29. Lucian Bute
    30. Joan Guzman
    31. Joshua Clottey
    32. Roman Gonzalez
    33. Andre Berto
    34. Gerry Penalosa
    35. James Kirkland
     
  4. RafaelGonzal

    RafaelGonzal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    two Joe Cazlzaghe fans thinking their veiled bull**** holds ice, and they want Cotto out of the top 10? seems likw more Margo craving to me, a Vile and putrid listing I wipe my ass with both your product.
     
  5. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I don't feel Cotto, who was just destroyed by a fighter who was also just destroyed, should be listed among the best in the game. Obviously, another big win can catapult him up there right away, but as of now, I feel there are other fighters who either have more momentum, have beat better fighters, or have been winning on a more consistent basis lately. Not a big deal, just my view.

    Shame you're so dismissive.
     
  6. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล

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    Adamek not high enough, Linares too high, Donaire too high, trade Williams for JuanMa and you've got a half-decent list.
     
  7. Axe

    Axe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody gives two shits. :tired
     
  8. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ill pick it apart because, thats why you posted it right? :hi:

    I agree with your number 1, Bhop is the best.

    I don't agree with your number 2, Since JMM lost to Pac last time.

    Mosley is way too high, one big win (over an exposed cheat) does not catapult him back to top 5 p4p. Hes just outside the top 5.

    Cotto is a great fighter, but he dosent belong in the top 10 IMO. WHO HAS HE BEAT? He had a very good win over mosley. but other than that his record dosent indicate top 5 p4p for me.

    I dont think ricky or Juan or top 10 p4p either.

    David haye should be ranked muchhh higher aswell. Other then kirkland at 35 :patsch ( seriously omitting world champs like sergey but putting in james) your list seems pretty good to me :thumbsup
     
  9. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Hmmmm...:think Perhaps those are good changes. I may alter them I think.
     
  10. djm

    djm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, someone has to say it... uh... Valero? Can't possibly be above that many guys that have fought top 10's in their division. But you probably already know that.
     
  11. rreed23

    rreed23 aka Gordon Gekko Full Member

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    replace Marquez with Hatton and youve got a solid list.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    And to the chap that said Cotto shouldn't be in there, his resume is deep as ****....Mosley allowed to be just outisde the top five, but Cotto, who has a win over him, as well as wins over Torres, Corley, Judah, Jennings :)rofl) and who has always fought decent opposition (Randall Bailey in his 20th fight for example) and will now be fighting another ABC belt holder Clottey, who is held in high regard by some.

    The boxing masterclass he was putting on against Marg shows he has P4P skills, and in light of the recent evidence found on Margo shows he has P4P toughness too :good
     
  13. Williams27

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    Why the hell is Hopkins #1?
     
  14. Williams27

    Williams27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chris Arreola shouldnt be any where near top 100 much less 35.
     
  15. VanillaKilla

    VanillaKilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto is a very good fighter, but he is still unproven. Other then mosley he has not yet fought a top opponent(barring the marg fight). You can't count the judah win since had lost to carlos baldomir and mayweather right before the fights. Hes pretty much shot. Also torres is a good win, but nothing to warrent top pound for pound status, same with paulie mag. Cotto is defintly hovering around 9-12 range though. But that is only because of the mosley win. Remember, he has NEVER properly become a champion, he has only won vacant titles (never unifying titles either). So cotto has never even been the real champ of his division....... Do you really think that warrents top 5 p4p???