Freddie Roach is an overrated trainer ...

Nobody respects a clown who's always cursing, living the life of a foul mouthed jerk like yourself, who shows little to no boxing knowledge at all, and who is nothing more than a degenerate who just loves to argue. That is the true reason why you don't post much nowadays lol. You're Andrew dice Clay without the comedy. Also, you can't post about Margarito so go figure...lol.

 

Says the ******* who lies telling people he's a former pro boxer.

 

If you look at Mannys fights before and after Freddie you see a huge difference.

 

Roach used to fight, and he is a good trainer. He learned from the best. Pac has gotten tons better. It's when Roach opens his mouth, and starts trash talking is when people judge him as a trainer...and that shouldn't be the case. He is definitely a good trainer. Toney and Pac are just a few guys whose styles he tweaked, and it shows.

 

You don't know a thing about anyone here except someone you might know, or have met lol...:nut

 

If you look at my post, I confirmed that. Manny has improved since his first fight with Marco dramatically, but to the point where Marco would likely be even more competitive than when he was in '03. That isn't even speculation, their rematch proved it. Still, he has improved. He's a well rounded fighter now.

But he has not, and I want to make this clear, not improved after his rematch with Marquez. Going from prime Marquez to David Diaz is like going from Muhammad Ali to Leon Spinks.

 

Yup, its not just with Freddie though, i see people judging Floyd sr and Roger etc because of the things they say.

 

atsch You're an honorless liar....

 

words coming from a clown as well..

 

Could it also be that Marquez also improved?

 

His right hand was working over time against Diaz, because he was a stationary target and nowhere on the skill level of a Juan Manuel Marquez.

Don't even mention the De La Hoya fight. How can you know whether or not he improved when he was fighting a zombie?

 

Don't tell Floyd Mayweather Snr that.

It would mean that trainers are just that - Trainers.

 

pac has been developing that right hand since after the first morales fight. certainly, he wasn't fighting all zombies since then and that includes his 2008 rematch w/ jmm.

 

Since his second fight with Juan Manuel Marquez, up until now, you cannot properly assess whether or not Manny has improved because his level of competition has plummeted. That was the point I was making.

 

Yeah, going up 17 pounds in weight and then back down to fight the lineal 140 pound champ as he is doing now, what a cherry picker.

You're full of it buddy.