Arum tells marquez the road to pacquiao is through valero

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    If you think the weight drained accusation is more an excuse than it is a fact, then we're always going to disagree on the matter. On that basis, we should agree to disagree. It's healthier.
     
  2. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dont even BEGIN to go there troll.

    JMM stops two unstopped P4P fighters in Casa and JUAN Diaz
    PAC cherry picks bum of the year DAVID Diaz and an even worse version of DLH shows up.
    Pac deserves NO credit at all for beating these bums.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    He wants to prove the majority of Boxing writers, Brian Kenny, myself, and a lot of other boxing fans who felt he lost to Juan that he can beat him.
     
  4. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Selfkill - no Cotto in your list?
     
  5. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Floyd should be fighting Mosley if he comes back and Pac should fight JMM after Hatton. If they both win then PBF/Pac should happen.
     
  6. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    for the simple reason that he doesn't have the luxury of time. He wants to make tons of money pronto and a JMM fight won't provide that. It's that simple jeff, pac can't be bothered with JMM even if he's announcing the contrary.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Not for me, Radab.

    He was decisively beaten by a fighter who was recently beaten even more decisively. I think there are fighters out there who have been more consistent or successful recently.
     
  8. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    There is no reason he cannot fight twice after Hatton. He makes more money with two fights than just one.
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Erik Morales was way past his best. If the 2nd fight does not serve as an indication, than his fight with Zahir Raheem should. Still, good win by Manny but that's going back 4 years.

    I felt JMM beat Manny twice, he defeated Barrera, albeit an old one, and then moved up to Lightweight and desively beat two previously never before stopped legitimate Lightweights. I give him preference, for now.
     
  10. kadyo

    kadyo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that's a very shallow reason SK and that runs contrary to his deep desire of becoming a public official. That's the truth I can see right now. Let's just hope pac loses in the 2010 election like he did 3 years ago and this rubbermatch will surely be realized.
     
  11. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    If Pac wants to go right for Floyd after Hatton then the only way it makes sense is if it's his last fight ever.
     
  12. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    :huh

    casa was shot! diaz win was good but a pac win over hatton eclipses both JMM wins.

    pac's victory against Oscar was bigger than both casa and diaz. :deal

    that's how history sees it...
     
  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    You'll believe what you want too Kadyo. You speak of Marquez as if he isn't in Manny's class, and although you probably don't realize it, that would also be discrediting Manny.
     
  14. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    History would be stretching on this one.
     
  15. radab

    radab Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He's had one loss. He's beaten Mosley. He was schooling Margo for 6 rounds - only thing lacking was stamina, and Mosleys perfect gameplan - two things that can easily be rectified.

    Power, speed, skill, intelligence - he's got it all. In my eyes he's easily the most dangerous fight for Floyd.

    Plus he ducks NO one - Mosely, Margo, Clottey - he fights them all.

    I'd love to see a rematch with Mosely.