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A perfect lesson in 'what should not have been' also. Had Cus lived another half a dozen years, and King dropped dead, Tyson may have been allowed time to mature with some dignity.

Johnny Tocco, in his gym made a comment.

"Do you know what that stupid Bl..k son of a ***** has done, he just signed a $60 Million deal with King. Now he went and got 32 BMW's to hand out to whores"

Tyson was no genius.

 

I know that's what you're saying. And I'm saying he'd get stomped by a number of Heavyweights from the past.

 

Tyson was in terrible form in that fight, its no wonder he got dropped by his sparring partner.

Best ever puncher imo

 

I've been to that gym... Had a good chat with Livingstone Bramble there. Seriously, he had the potential to be something amazing.

 

Im too scared to ask who you think.

 

In the brief time he had it all together he was amazing, a fairy tale ending could have seen him be GOAT

 

I reckon Jack Johnson would have boxed circles around Tyson.

 

Livingstone was a better than average fighter mate, and a very gracious loser also...

Tysons brain, as a kid thrust into massive financial circumstances, manipulative 'pretenders of friends' and unrealistic levels of support completely scattered him.

I wonder what he would say to a kid with potential, coming up through the ranks now???

 

:rofl Ya killing me!

 

Mate the fact of the matter is that Tyson had trouble with tall Heavyweights. Prime Holmes beats him, prime Foreman kills him, as much as I don't particuarly like him prime Lewis is a favourite over him.

Tyson brings nothing more than prime Frazier had, so Ali/Clay beats him. Joe Louis pounds him... Evander does too. ****, Riddick Bowe that showed up in the first Holyfield fight gives him hell.

 

I'm deadly serious.

When Schmeling 'saw something' against Louis in their first fight, who was the guy who picked up what it was? Louis refused Jacks advances to his camp and feeling snubbed, told Max of his defensive flaw. A very clever fighter and powerful, plus the fact you'd need a front end loader to carry the balls he had for what he did at that time in history makes him a personal favourite.

Tyson would struggle to make my top 10 heavyweight list of all time, as mentioned previuosly biggest waste of talent ever, you can't grade him on what he could have achieved.

 

Tyson wouldn't be in my top 10. Not a chance. Beating Pinklon Thomas and Trevor Berbick doesn't get you there.

 

"Tyson has trouble with tall H/W's"

I dont remember Tyson fighting a man shorter than himself.
Prime Tyson's unorthodox stlye would stretch Lewis.
Joe Louis would most likely catch a handful of the same. Nye Nye Joe.
Holmes would have a better range to fight Tyson... reliant on the jab..

I like both Foreman and Holyfield's chances against Tyson prior to Douglas.

One thing to take into account IMO, we never really saw the best of Tyson. We never got to see him develop into a seasoned fighter, who's stlye had adapted as his body aged accordingly. The time of prison and being banned had been no benefit. Tyson was a shot kid anyway. With a career of the Louis mould, or that of Ali, even though both had lay-offs due to the War and/unwillingness to participate, both were in the late 20's, matured in boxing, has brilliant skills where as Tyson was completely untested. He'd been 12 rounds a couple of times, but he was a ****in kid with arseholes in his ear.

 

Brings nothing more than Frazier ****.

Lewis and Holmes (because of the size of the men with their skill) would be the ones i could see handling Tyson the easiest out of all those but he would lose some fights to Tyson if they fought a number of times.

The others i do not see stomping him.

On a side note is it me but i feel some major Evan Fields undertone in that reply.

 

What about beating Peter McNeally??? lol