Top 5 Best Footwork of Heavyweight Champions All Time

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    1. Jersey Joe Walcott

    - Maybe the best footwork in history p4p. Walcott not only had incredible footwork, he INVENTED incredible moves with his footwork that still have yet to be duplicated to this modern day. God gave Walcott a gift, and Walcott made the best of it. The way he does that Walcott Shuffle and at times seems like he is doing the moonwalk in and out is fascinating. His feet go one direction and his body goes the other! There is a sparring clip of him training for marciano and he pretends to move to his left, then slides to his right and the way he slides with his feet it looks like he is on ice or something. Unbelievable. In the ring, Walcott would do his famous "Walcott Waltz". He would pretend to go forward then all of a sudden pivot on his left foot and walk back over his right foot at the same time turning his body 180 degrees..He would repeat this over and over again..switching it up by instead bringing his left foot back under his right foot giving a change of pace..the last one he would do is dance up on his toes and then fake his upperbody to the left then in one fast transaction pivot both feet to the opposite side(check round 11 vs Louis 1948) When an opponent tried to land a jab on this last shuffle it would be impossible to land cleanly for walcott's whole body including head would move along with his feet. Overall, this footwork would cause Caos to the other opponent and they would walk right into walcotts traps. The greatest heavyweight of all time joe louis, had no idea how to deal with walcott's footwork, he walked into one hundred traps. he missed many punches. Louis said later "Walcott was so tricky with his feet, he would be on the inside popping me so i would go to tee off on him then all of a sudden he was gone out of range, then a split second later he was back in range slugging on me so I would go to tee off again and all of a sudden hed be gone!" The way Walcott casually walked in on charles like he was going for a stroll in the park then BOOOM still lives as one of the greatest plans ever executed.


    2. Muhammad Ali

    - By far the fastest feet in heavyweight history. Ali could dance on his toes for 15 rounds then go to he local club after the fight and dance on his toes another 2 hours. There was no stopping with this man. His feet were pure lightning, he could go in and out faster than anyone. He could circle his opponents faster than anyone. And to make things even more incredible, he was a 6'3 212lb man. That is a big heavyweight, to move like that faster than any sub 200lb man is godly. Yet he pulled it off. Sonny Liston the Big Bad Terror who chased everyone down could not catch Ali even if he had brooks robinsons glove on. Ali was so fast with his feet that he was able to get away with not so perfect fundamentals like pulling his head back and low gaurd...Fastest footwork in history.


    3. Jack Dempsey- You would think a man with a lean forward bend at the waist Swarmer style would never be able to fight on his toes, too much grind. Yet Jack Dempsey somehow pulled it off. The best footwork for any swarmer style who ever lived, the only swarmer I have ever seen box on his toes while leaning forward...You know how much strain that puts on your calves? :-( Even with the Botchy Film, you can still see the Skill in Dempseys footwork...He was soo graceful the way he bounced on his toes, and he moved in and out in and out so side to side so unpredictable, he is the only one i seen besides walcott who could go in and out of range by going sideways with incredible precision footwork. Dempsey's footwork was impossible to Time. Dempsey sparring with Big Bill Tate a 6'7 coloured fighter, his footwork in that picture is a thing of art. For a heavyweight who fought in a era before proper boxing fundamentals and techniques were developed, dempsey sure made Footwork very modern. no modern heavyweight has been able to surpass dempseys footwork.


    4. Ezzard Charles- In his prime, he had the most elegant and smooth footwork I have ever seen. The way he bounced on his toes, it was like the way a musicionist plays the violin, so smooth. It had a rythm to it that could sell # 1 on box hits today. The way he went in and out of range he looked like a ballerina. Unbelievable poise, balance, and elegancy. Pat Valentino watched charles put a footwork clinic on him for 9 rounds. Charles in the late 1940's Charles still had good footwork all the way through 1954, but it was by 1950 that his footwork began to slip a bit. People tend to not watch enough film of 1940's charles footwork.


    5. Gene Tunney- Very similiar footwork style to Ali. Like Ali, he had such fast feet that he got way with not proper fundamentals(hands low, chin out, lean back to avoid punches), but he was so fast that no one caught except one man for one round in 82 pro fights. Tunney shuffled sidewats faster than anyone I have seen, that was where he was at his best, circling his opponent sideways shuffling. Tunney was great at getting himself off the ropes using his fast feet to shuffle out of harms war. Dempsey tried to get into range, but tunney was so fast with his feet he kept him at long range for 19 out of 20 rounds. He could also dart in and out pretty quickly too, when he went on the offensive.



    * Sorry Old Time fans, we dont have adaquete film of Corbett, so we can't make that honest assessment. I refuse to buy into the sensationalism.
     
  2. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Muhammed Ali
    2. Joe Walcott
    3. Ezzard Charles
    4. Larry Holmes
    5. Lennox Lewis
     
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  3. lefthook31

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    I always thought a prime Mike Tyson had some of the most amazing moves to get into punching distance, bobbing and weaving around his opponents punches. His explosive quickness to get inside and out and step off to the side, was just as impressive as a guy who danced and moved around the ring.
     
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  4. MRBILL

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    1. Ali
    2. Tunney
    3. Walcott
    4. Holmes
    5. Holy / Charles (Tie)

    SR.BILLARDO

    Note:

    I realize the films of Jimmy Corbett are crude, but his footwork was revered and noted with authority in the epic '42 film "Gentleman Jim" with Errol Flynn....
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Jack Johnson should be in here guys.

    He ran rings around the much smaller Tommy Burns.

    Sam Langford would almost certainly make the list with a bit more film.
     
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  6. BITCH ASS

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    Lewis?
     
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  7. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Johnson is number ... never off balance. The best defensive fighter in the history of the division ..
     
  8. SuzieQ49

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    Yes best defense, but we are talking footwork here, not defense. There is not clear enough footage of johnsons footwork in his prime. and his footwork at age 37 vs moran and willard was nothing to brag about, especially with that tire around his midsection.
     
  9. SuzieQ49

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    good pick ,tyson would have been my next choice
     
  10. mcvey

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    What Walcott did with his feet ,zigging and zagging was known as the "Cakewalk" a popular dance of the time.Personally I loved his shoulder feints.
    Louis was less complimentary about Walcott,just after their first fight,he said this to Jimmy Cannon.
    "I made the fight tough for myself" ." He didn't make it tough for me. He did so many wrong things.I saw every opening.But I couldnt get to him.It was a lousy fight. I saw him when he made the mistakes.It's like a guy running.You can't make a sprint in the end.Your legs feel you can go, but you feel bad in the pit of your stomach".
    Jimmy Cannon."sounds like you are getting old".
    "Diet and drying out,I wanted to weigh 212,I should have weighed 214,I weighed 215 and sometime the day before the fight I killed myself taking off the 4 pounds. But that aint no excuse it was a lousy fight"
    Cannon,"when did you know you weren't right?"
    "In the dressing room,I was warming up in there for 15 minutes".
    "The punch that knocked you down in the first was a sucker punch".
    "You can see it coming when you are weak,but your'e late getting up there,I saw every right hand,but it hit me anyway.One thing I'm happy to know""What's that"?
    "I made it tough for myself,he didnt".
    Cannon," I told him I thought he lost the fight and didnt deserve the decision "
    Louis "On my little Daughter I never hought at any time I lost the fight,I chased his tail all the rest of the fight.You knock a man down, your' supposed to go at a man. He knocked me down ,and then run run run."
     
  11. MRBILL

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    Hmmm... I gotta enough Johnson material on file to determind Jack's legs......... J.J. was fine & top-notch....... BUT! Johnson was not what appeared to be a blazing slickster on his feet....... Johnson knew how to take those small in and out / side-to-side "Stutter" steps to off-set his victims......... Again, Johnson's legs were fine..... Good call there....

    SR.BILLARDO
     
  12. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Billy Conn did the close up stuff , he could move a bit!
     
  13. janitor

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    Louis thought that any fighter who didnt stand toe to toe with him and slug it out was somehow dishonourable.

    Using footwork to escape punishment just wasnt cricket in his book.

    I agree that Walcott is the No1 for footwork though!
     
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  14. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah:patsch Substitute Jack Johnson for Lewis.
     
  15. Bokaj

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    Great post. Whether Ali or Walcott should be nr. 1 is a matter of taste I guess, but I definitely have no problem with Walcott there. I just love the way he moves. If I could choose to box like any HW it would be Walcott. It would be worth the occassional KO against ATGs to look that cool.