Andrade has improved so much under Grant.

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    He's a better fighter than when he fought Bute the first time, and he's a MUCH better fighter than when he fought Kessler. He feints, ducks under punches, bobs and weaves, blocks punches with his guard.

    anyone else notice the difference?
     
  2. Vengeance

    Vengeance Certified Headhunter Full Member

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    Yeah but he had Grant when he fought Bute too
     
  3. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Yea I was thinking about this after his last fight, I would love to see Bute vs Andrade 2... looking forward to it.
     
  4. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    It takes time for a new coach to make a difference. i think Andrade improved but I don't know how much.
     
  5. elgrancampeon

    elgrancampeon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe he just looked better because he was in there with pretty bad opposition.
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    improvement doesn't happen overnight
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    normally i would say that but he is doing things that he wasn't even attempting to do before. Even against shitty opposition
     
  8. CLUBBER

    CLUBBER C.R.A.B. BOXING Full Member

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    Yes he definitely added some new tricks in his bag...Howard is doing a good job with him...But it will not be enough for the 2nd fight against Bute...
     
  9. boxingwizard

    boxingwizard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Andrade has improved but I can still see Bute just being able to outlast Andrade again and win on points, but Andrade has to get started early if he wants to beat Bute.
     
  10. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    I completely agree. His offensive game hasn't developed that much (although he does throw the jab a bit more now), but defensively he's improved a LOT, and he even almost has sort of a sneaky slickness about him sometimes.

    I still agree with the first half of his interview statement. Bute will ALWAYS outbox Andrade. It's just a question of whether he can outlast Andrade. I'm pretty confident that he learned from his mistakes in the first fight and will do a better job at conserving his energy. Also, Bute's head movement was considerably better against Zuniga than it was against Andrade, so it's not like Bute isn't also improving.
     
  11. futonrevolution

    futonrevolution Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Offensively, the uppercut is getting even better, IMO.
    Other than that, all I can add is "co-sign" to most everything here.
     
  12. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tsypko is bad opposition? I disagree.

    World beater? No but certainly not a bad opponent.
     
  13. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

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    :dead
     
  14. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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