Please Stop Saying Floyd Picks On Smaller Fighters! He is the Smaller Fighter!

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  1. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    It's 2009, If he fight's below 147lbs against the Pac's/JMM's then yes he is fighting the smaller fighter's.

    If he continues his "lineal" WW "domination"...lol
    Like during the great hostage crisis of the WBC WW championship then much respect due. (I wonder which one will happen first)

    I bet Cotto, Mosley & Big show ect... want to know aswell.
    (To make plans for Christmas)
     
  2. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    I believe what I say. Floyd does not have the resume of an ATG. Having the skills of a great fighter and then being one are two different things. Floyd will come back because he knows he cannot retire with what his resume looks like now. My guess is he will fight Marquez since he can beat Marquez easily. If Pacman looks good he will not fight Pacman. Floyd does not have the mindset of a great fighter and his resume is not an ATGs. What warrants all time great in his resume? Beating Baldomir? And older Oscar? Castillo? Those are ATG wins?
     
  3. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    I will pick a fighter with 36 fights. Sugar Ray Leonard had a record of 35-1 and had beaten the likes of Duran,Hearns,Benitez and Hagler. :hi:
     
  4. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Was he fighting against a smaller Hatton?
     
  5. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    I always thought it was funny when Hatton fans said that he should not have fought at 147 and that Mayweather was the bigger man and thats why he lost, where as Mayweather did most of his work around 130 and Hatton was the career 140 lber
     
  6. littlefloyd

    littlefloyd Pure boxer Full Member

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    you just said floyd is not great. you mentioned an all time great as an example. Care to give me an example of a fighter that is not great that has accomplished what floyd did with only 39 fights:hi:
     
  7. Superfuzz

    Superfuzz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When it came to hatton, Pbf knew HAtton was fat and slow at 147, I mean Hatton was having trouble with a lot of guys at that weight. But, in 140 Hatton was much quicker and very strong and with a lot of power. Pbf knew this, and made Hatton come to 147, instead of the other way around. This is the type of cherry picking PBf has made a career out of. Pbf is not afraid to fight, no one thinks that for one bit, but he will cherry pick the weight, the location, the ref, the judges (that Jose Luis Castillo fight you mentioned, one of the biggest rip offs in history, compubox even had Jlc way ahead) for his advantages, and that is the beef I have with him.

    I have been analyzing this pbf his entire career, and I have him pegged perfectly, I know how this guy thinks, And I have his loving fans pegged perfectly too, how all his loving fans think too, making threads like this, defending his butt all day, and looking at it too.
     
  8. NALLEGE

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    People have the right to be a critic of Floyd, but what Mag is saying doesn't qualify as being a critic. You can't spew utter nonsense, and think that you are credible in your criticism lol...
     
  9. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    He won 6 belts in 5 weight classes, thats why he is an ATG. He beat a host of really good fighters, none of them probably ATG's in their primes, but that doesnt matter. JCC didnt beat an ATG's either, but he is considered an ATG. You know nothing.
     
  10. boricua100%

    boricua100% Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There you go! Now there is a great figther!!:good
     
  11. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    We were going to accept what you said...but then I read the underlined. It seems that ******s post at about 1:00am to 5:00am, and then 10:00am to about 2:00pm, and and after that real posters post. Eastsideboxing is a beautiful site to post in. Go get a job, so that you can go to the store and purchase a real boxing opinion.
     
  12. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Against true welterweights or higher, Floyd is the smaller man. He was also much smaller than Castillo at 135, at least in their first fight. Against Hatton at 147, he had a height advantage, reach advantage, and obviously, a strength advantage as well, over a fighter whose effectiveness clearly drops above 140. Which was a known fact after the Collazo fight.

    You can argue that Hatton is "bigger" because he tanks up on Guiness to walk around at 180+, and is the career light welterweight. But at the time they fought, and at the weight that they fought, Floyd was the bigger man in the ring.

    If they had fought in early 2004 at 140, the "Hatton was bigger" argument would be more credible.
     
  13. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its nobody fault but the oposition. Everybody just knew hatton would beat floyd. I thought the same. If hatton made the mistake of going up in weight thats his fault and floyd is being smart. Floyd cant risk being robbed by a biased judge or a biased refs

    Im alright with your post if thats what everybody mean when they call him a cherry picker. He has to be smart theres alot of people want to see him fall. just like ali. so with his terms your going to have to take the title not accept it as a gift
     
  14. Starched Him

    Starched Him Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ricky natural weight is 140. and he is not gifted like i mentioned you have to be to bounce up and down and win. and i think ricky can get up to 200# when not fighting. Thats why he isnt one of the gifted fighters. He does not train all year around. I floyd will return but i bet you he has trained the whole time.
     
  15. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    thats unfair because those fighters are ATG's name a fighter you wanted Floyd to fight right now who is evn on the level of hte fighters you just named?

    The boxing crop today is very talented and are good but its a different time..there is not a boxer like either of the fighters you just named

    I mean if Floyd fought Ricky at 140 would it have made that big a difference?

    Margo...after getting pummeled by a true boxer in Mosley and not handling PW?

    Cotto Who is very good and maybe one day an ATG but right now is just an elite boxer in the WW division but he has not accomplished enough nor beat a real champion yet.

    You can't handicap floyd for not having Hearns, Haglers, and Duran's...its...in fact all those fighters when they fought each other were already considered ATG's when fighting each other.

    There are a handful fo fighters right now that are ATG's and still boxing and the only who is a formidable opponent to me and a legitimate fight is Mosley because they can both fight at welter.