Please Stop Saying Floyd Picks On Smaller Fighters! He is the Smaller Fighter!

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  1. UnderMyUmbrella

    UnderMyUmbrella New Member Full Member

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    pac will never stutter in the face of adversity. floyd did, now hes rightfully condemned to a lifetime of ridicule. :good:p
     
  2. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can respect that. I'll admit straight up, I thought Floyd would beat Hatton handily, but wasn't calling for a highlight reel KO. I do chalk that up to Hatton's chin getting exposed at a higher weight class to a certain extent, but there are very few fighters who could have timed that picture perfect of a left hook. It was a thing of beauty.

    No, Roy is not the best analogy I've ever made, but for the sake of the argument I'll stick with it. Floyd's talent made him successful at 147 while Hattton wasn't, and 147 is the first publicly recognized "glamour division" weight-wise. This put him in a position to dictate, whoever was "calling out" who, the terms of the showdown. Same went for Roy, he was the name, and he could have demanded that Tarver fight him above 175.

    I'll pose you this question, which you answered already indirectly. If Floyd had moved back to 140 and dominated Hatton the same way he did at 147, wouldn't it have been an even more resounding win historically? I think with the right marketing, and the right sound bytes from Floyd, it could have happened, and the PPV would have been just as successful. What does the public really care about seven pounds? All they'd have needed to hear was that Floyd was fighting Hatton at the weight Ricky had never lost at in thirty odd fights, just to prove how good he was.

    Of course Roy was no true heavyweight, but then Floyd was no true welterweight. And whatever you think of Roy, the way he came down in weight to beat Tarver was a great story, and the night we learned that he actually had a big heart when he needed it. Seeing Floyd try something similar would have been fascinating.
     
  3. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    So then I take it the killer represents Mayweather groupies and the victims represent Boxing and the fans, you can run and you can hide and you can try to talk some sence into them, but before the end of the movie you will be found and killed with a weapon which represents the groupies stupidity.
     
  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Like I said earlier I would have loved PBF to come down and fight Hatton at 140 because I always felt he was better suited for 140 than 147. PBF's ego wouldn't allow him to do that esepcially after beating a megastar in Oscar.
     
  5. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    beating = remember the time when Oscar's heart was about to explode some time after the 6th round and he was moving like a zombie, so they had a medical team waiting on standby, yet despite this and despite Roger Mayweather's constant calls for Floyd to let his hands go, Floyd refused to

    POSSIBLY CUZ HE WAS ASCARED
     
  6. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    that fight was almost 1 sided axe....the scores were accurate imo...i had the fight 7-4 and 1 even....116-113 mayweather...
     
  7. nhojrem

    nhojrem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    this thread continues to pack with clowns and gays..
     
  8. UnderMyUmbrella

    UnderMyUmbrella New Member Full Member

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    lol @ your avatar.. clowns and gays! hahaha.......hahaha...ha..
     
  9. nhojrem

    nhojrem Well-Known Member Full Member

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    they just keep on multipying ...
     
  10. UnderMyUmbrella

    UnderMyUmbrella New Member Full Member

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    lol.......................ahem..............(sorry)...........lol.........(ahem)..
     
  11. NALLEGE

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    Someone needs to teach this guy boxing 101. There aren't that many great fighters back then and now who had the privilige to face 4 great fighters, let alone one. To use this logic shows that you have shallow thinking lol. Floyd's career isn't over lol. As long as Floyd beats good fighter after good fighter in their prime, and not living off the guys name, he is ok with me.
     
  12. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    All Floyd has to do is beat good fighters, and he will be judged. Not everyone can face atg's. You have to be lucky that those types of fighters are in your division, above or below, and in their prime to make fights like that.
     
  13. UnderMyUmbrella

    UnderMyUmbrella New Member Full Member

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    exactly! its not about whos the best its about s..s..s..smart business decisions [unquote].
     
  14. NALLEGE

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    The thing you forget out of all this, is that Floyd did NOT want to do business with Arum. He didn't get big money fighting Chico, or a ppv fight. He never got fights with Freitas or Casamayor because Arum didn't think he could make money off of those guys.

    This is a summation of my readings on how things went down...this is not an order of events...it's just me scribbling the truth...my readings on these matters.

    Floyd didn't make big money fighting Castillo in 2 ppv fights. Floyd talked to Dlh way back when about promoting himself which is why Dlh felt stabbed in the back during the promotion of their fight because Floyd bad mouthed Dlh during the promotions, and Dlh felt that he gave him good advice on how to promote yourself which basically led Floyd to leave Arum.

    Floyd wanted Kostya at 140, and he lost to Hatton. Floyd tried to make a fight with Hatton at 140, and nothing happened. Floyd tried to make a fight with Shane also, and nothing came of it. Cotto's people said their man wasn't ready for a fight at 140 which was understandable. The only taker was Gatti.

    Floyd was in talks about a 3 fight deal with Arum, and when Arum mentioned a fight with AM, had Floyd won, Floyd did not like the back end of that contract which puts more money in Arum's pocket than Floyd. The back end of the deal was I believe was 2 mil a fight plus ppv revenue. Floyd thought he could make much more after talking to Dlh. Why do you think Dlh left Arum? Why do you think Floyd left Arum. They thought that they were bigger than their promoter. The promoter thought he was bigger than the fighters.

    Floyd felt he paid his dues at the lower weights fighting contenders, and basically waited for the other ww's to see who he could face after the smoke cleared. Floyd did not see himself making big money against AM or Williams, but did see the potential in big money fighting Cotto. Once Cotto lost, Floyd retired. Floyd did not want to fight top ww after top ww when he did this at 130. He wanted a super fight, and none of the ww's outside of Floyd showed that they could be Hearns to Sugar in Floyd's mind.
     
  15. NALLEGE

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    Guess who is bizaaaaack lol:lol: AM's biggest fan. You gave yourself away alt lol.