Q: Is Dave Haye any better of a fighter than Juan C. Gomez?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MRBILL, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Messages:
    21,116
    Likes Received:
    118
    :bbbFolks,

    Let's get down to it..... Is Haye better than Gomez? Okay, we all know Gomez was just TKO'd by V.K. a couple of weeks ago; all that aside is Dave Haye any better than Juan Gomez in the skill and toughness dept.??
    :huh
    I know Haye looks more fit as a heavy, compared to the softer Gomez... But what about skills and durability?? Gomez took a beating from V.K. and showed his heart in doin' so..... Can or will Dave Haye be any tougher of a challenge to younger bro. Wlad???
    :huh

    MR.BILL:bbb
     
  2. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Messages:
    9,895
    Likes Received:
    2,227
    Yes.
    A lot more power, better reflexes, an impetuous style (but not an impregnable defense) and, he actually shows up in shape for all of his fights.

    What we don't know is how much of a beating he can take. My guess is the winner will be whoever can GIVE the better beating.
     
  3. aj415

    aj415 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2006
    Messages:
    4,606
    Likes Received:
    6
    Haye is chinny certainly, but I think he surpasses Gomez in speed, power, and balls.
     
  4. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2007
    Messages:
    6,885
    Likes Received:
    1
    I think Gomez is more durable but Haye has superior technical ability and speed.
     
  5. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Messages:
    21,116
    Likes Received:
    118
    I never liked Gomez, but Gomez proved to be a tuff cookie and a decent boxer in general........

    This may be far-fetched, but Juan C. Gomez kinda' reminds me of a new version of Carlos DeLeon....... A cagey fighter with skill, but never going to please a crowd or win over new fans......

    MR.BILL
     
  6. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2005
    Messages:
    13,028
    Likes Received:
    14
    Well unlike Gomez Haye is young and his physical PRIME, that alone makes him better. BTW Diaz smokes Gomez in 1 yrs back so I don't think hes more durable than Haye either.
     
  7. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Messages:
    21,116
    Likes Received:
    118
    LOOK! Haye is making a HUGE mistake if he thinks Wlad Klit is the same reckless fighter of 2003 / '04......... Klit is not........ W.K. may've adapted a "Safety" first approach over the last few yrs, but it has proven effective.... I think Haye is in deep **** once he realizes that Klit is now too skilled and experienced to fall into any traps......... KLIT BY KO!!

    MR.BILL
     
  8. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Messages:
    21,116
    Likes Received:
    118
    I hear you, but I'll take an aging vet who is in shape over a young puppy with greeness in his arsenal any day.......... Gomez is indeed aging at 35, but he is still young enough to fight..... BUT!! I was not happy with his soft look at 230 pounds.....:shock:

    MR.BILL
     
  9. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2007
    Messages:
    12,995
    Likes Received:
    0
    haye is better than gomez...he prob won't beat wlad but he has a much better chance
     
  10. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2007
    Messages:
    60,376
    Likes Received:
    242
    :****
    This content is protected

    That's an insult to Haye.

    Honestly I'd rather watch a fighter get blasted out in 1 throwing bombs
    then watch someone with a starter's pistol get his ass kicked for 10+ Rds.

    Haye is what the division needs.
    Gomez is what killed it.
     
  11. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2005
    Messages:
    13,028
    Likes Received:
    14
    Haye isn't very experianced but he can no longer be called Green either, and yes is better than gomez, its not even close IMO.
     
  12. boxingwizard

    boxingwizard Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Messages:
    4,853
    Likes Received:
    1
    Haye, he has more power and speed and is younger.
     
  13. spittle8

    spittle8 Dropping Fisticuffs Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2008
    Messages:
    1,046
    Likes Received:
    4
    I wonder sometimes if Wladimir would be occasionally better served by reverting to the flashy fighter he was early in his career rather than always being so careful. Against Ibragimov for example, it would have been nice to see him get flashy and stop Sultan. I doubt Haye will win.
     
  14. El Borracho

    El Borracho Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2008
    Messages:
    5,053
    Likes Received:
    0
  15. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2004
    Messages:
    86,106
    Likes Received:
    4,098
    Gomez had over 300 amateur fights. I remember him when he sparred at Universum. He would knock Haye out. I have zero doubt about that. Gomez is much more skilled than Haye. The haters are simply delusional with hate and sour grapes.