patterson vs marciano late 56 or 57

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  1. pare

    pare Active Member Full Member

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    this has probably been done before, but i was wondering what people's thoughts are on what would have happened had these two actually met.

    it could be a case of patterson being rock's next fight (he didn't retire), or perhaps rock does retire, patterson won the belt as history recorded, then rock decides to win the belt back and round his record to 50-0.

    the thing that made me think that it's not just a case of chinny patterson getting blown out by the rock are their fights with moore... what do you think?
     
  2. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marciano would always be too much for Patterson....Marciano Ko
     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Rocky was slowing down by 56 and pattersons speed and combinations could give especially the 1956 version of rock quite a bit of trouble, but patterson in 1956 at 21 182lb was just too inexperienced and too meak to beat marciano at that stage. patterson of 56 loved to brawl, and I can't see a young floyd being durable enough to survive even a 33 year old marcianos firepower and veteran experience. Not to mention floyd if he wants to beat rocky has to keep up with his pace for 15 rounds. Strong Swarmer Hurricane Jackson gave floyd huge fits in there 1956 fight with his ackwardness strength and windmill style. I dont think youth beats old age in this one. Not in 1956. by 1958 rocky will have slowed down enough for floyd to take him. pattersons speed would give 33 year old rocky trouble the first couple rounds but once rocky got going and started landing patterson will go down and out eventually. If were talking prime for prime, I dont think floyd makes it out of two rounds with the 1951 slugger version of rocky. Pattersons style plays right into rockys hands. Patterson was a great fighter though, I think he beats many top heavyweights head to head.
     
  4. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciano would have won this by early knockout...in my opinion.
     
  5. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Patterson of '56 who KO'd Moore in 5 rds was on fire.............. I'd guess he'd have taken Rocco Marciano to school in '56 or '57........... Marciano was past it and slowing down after 1955.......

    MR.BILL
     
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    jesus, thats a great post ^^ :good
     
  7. MrMarvel

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    If Walcott goes 13 rounds and Charles goes 15, Patterson is not getting blown out. I think Marciano's awkwardness and wildness is the X-factor here. It could go either way. Patterson was a much better boxer and the much faster of the two. He had good power, too. But Patterson had that chin problem. And in 1956, he had only not been a light heavyweight for a few fights. I don't know. I always wished Patterson had stayed at light heavyweight. I have always felt that he was out of league. Remarkable that he accomplished what he did despite his size.
     
  8. teeto

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    Marciano for me.
     
  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Mr. Marvel aka Revolver Megaman Pepping It Hank
     
  10. janitor

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    Stylistic diferences?????????????
     
  11. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Ben,

    Just remember who your argueing with...Revolver....A more laid back version of Revolver, but still Revolver none the less. Megaman Pepping It Homicide Hank they all are Mr. Marvel. That means he is always right and his arrogant attitude will never see your point.
     
  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Perhaps we should give him the benefit of the doubt just in case he isnt Revolver?

    If he isnt then this is not the reception we would want to give him as a newbie.
     
  13. MrMarvel

    MrMarvel Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I appreciate the sentiments. But it's okay. The man isn't bothering me with all this side stuff. I am just going to keep talking about boxing. All this personality crap is a distraction anyway. Peace.
     
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  15. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Marciano was ready to be taken at the very end of his career. If he staged a comeback I feel that he absolutely would have been beaten by most elite, world class fighters of the time.

    The fire and motivation was dimming. His ability to get into amazing shape with that endless stamina. The wars had taken their toll, the serious back injuries...

    So who knows.