Past his best days, but not "shot". Williams is just hard to get going against. I think Winky is still a top level middleweight
Naw....Ring worn no way. He's a fighter who has longevity specifically due to his incredible defensive prowess. He's had 2 maybe 3 tough fights in his entire career and last night was one of them. He's just loosing a step in the speed and reflexes dept. But his experience and knowledge is at an all time high.
so who would you take over winky at 160-154? besides pavlik i think he would be very competitive or beat everyone else... **** he would probably be competitive against pavlik as well
YES HE WAS SHOT. AA and Pavlik would have KOed the Wright that fought Williams last night and Strum would have SD him in the USA and UD in Germany.
Can't quite understand why after laying off for a year and a half he chose to come back against Williams. Should've at least fought a tune up fight. He's got a couple more fights left in him though. Williams is a freak of nature.
hell no, he looked better than I thought he would, so did Williams, that is why he got his ass kicked.
:rofl If you are going to be funny at least indicate it somewhere so other members don't think you are ******ed.
Hard to tell if he was shot. I thought Winky was gonna win easily but I forgot that Williams' tremendous punch output was perfect for keeping Winky in his shell. Winky blocked most of Williams' shots but what does that matter if you block three hundred of four hundred shots per round! Incredible display of the maxim, "styles make fights". I think Williams would still be tough for many boxers.
Winky certainly wasn't shot; he actually looked a lot better than I imagined. I gave him four out of the five swing rounds. Lemme check my notes from last night... The rust showed when he got hit to the body; he even jumped away from body feints in the 4th before ad******g in the 5th, but that brought his elbows down a tad, which led to more jabs getting between his gloves, which added to the puffiness around both eyes that started in the 2nd, which.... yeah... Williams is a hell of a guy to fight when coming off a semi-retirement, no matter who you are. Winky countered especially well in the 9th and punched with PW in several rounds, but he couldn't do that and control distance at the same time. He still managed to make Williams get dicey with the holding in the 9th. At the 10th, WW got checked by a doctor and started complaining to Cortez, but it's not like he was ready to go at any moment. I wouldn't exactly puff up Winky as a world-beater to make PW look better, but he did look incredibly good for his age and inactivity. I didn't think he had that kind of sustained workrate in him years ago, much less today, but he pleasantly surprised me there. He was quite accurate, but he's not exactly a KO artist (to put it mildly) and Cortez makes anybody's inside game impossible. Friggin' Cortez...
Not shot. Just not his best. He was badly bothered by Williams work rate. Not may other MW's present that.
Yeah, but how can you say that he was almost shot based on yesterday's fight? PW simply didn't let him breath. Who knows what Winky would do against a methodical and plodding fighter like Pavlik or Abraham?
during the telecast manny stewart said that he has seen winky fight his whole career (since fighting in europre) and it was his most determined fight he has every seen winky fight... he said it was his best performance with the jermain taylor fight.... just heard it on tivo