Can Paul Williams bring popularity back to American Boxing?

Here's the thing though my man. Where is the big crowd for Williams? Cotto and Margarito weren't even supposed to get a countdown show...but a massive amount of their fans petitioned HBO and forced them to do one. That payed off with 500,000K buys and a big ratings draw with Margarito/Mosley.

You're right Paul Williams lacks a cult fanbase...but where is he gonna get one? Akon? Even if he wins a bunch of fights, He's still just a fighter. To draw you need to be more than that.

He doesn't have anything going much for him in that department.

 

I think it's pretty doubtful he fights Hopkins next. Hopkins may say things, but he won't waste time with Williams, unless Williams in the next couplr fights gains a HUGE following, and maybe a world title.

But I'm not sure what you are saying with the Cotto vs. Margarito and Shane vs. Margarito fights. Should the network have put more money into those? They did put money into them. They advertised a lot. LEts not forgot the promotoer is supposed to do his job as well. It's not all on the Network to make fighters a star, the fighter and promoter are more responsible for that.

And both of those fights had great results. Not sure what you are going on about mentioning those.

 

ok NOW your talking business...

to get a bigger fan base he just needs to start winning against big names and winning big.... if he fights pavlik and win's and who knows... maybe even win by t/ko.. the fans will start coming...

the rest is up to the promotional team... they start getting this guy on espn, market him well and they come out of their pockets... you might be surprised

thats what i mean... the promoter.... gbp or whoever is in charge needs to get shane and margarito's asses on espn, get them on the front of espn.com

look its ****ing 2009.... things change... all these stupid promotional tours dont do ****.... these guys need to start getting more creative with their promotional tools

 

That's pretty epic that out of everything I wrote, you found one quote that somewhat fit your argument and used that. As though everything else I wrote was....what's the word...correct?

Just sayin.

 

Agreed but that's another argument for another time. Promoters aren't as good these days.

 

People like punchers and veritable underdogs in boxing. Paul Williams isn't either of those things. He's an oversized skinny country boy who says "naimsayin" every other word. Having a nice smile isn't quite enough to be considered charismatic. People give a **** about aesthetics, unfortunately. If stardom was some kind of charity maybe Williams would have some sort of chance..

 

For what? :huh Interviews? Fights? Shane's had the exposure. And Margarito's not going to be on ESPN or any other station for a while.

Why do you say they don't do ****? The way you promote is to get the names OUT THERE as much as possible to as big a base of people as possible. What do you think they should be doing to promote fighters?

The Countdown's and 24/7's help a whole lot.

 

i just didnt pay it much mind because you and I both know its true.... I personally think its hard for blk fighters in 09 to get support in comparison to white or latino fighters....

the bar for blk fighters are fantastically high.... you have to follow in the foot steps of ali>srL>tyson>roy jones... you virtually have to be superman to get the nod from the black fan base....

For the Margarito Shane Fight They should have gotten some espn coverage and paid espn to feature the fight on the front page 2-3 weeks a head of time... maybe get shane on the tonight show with jay leno or some ****.... i mean these guys need to start getting creative because for the boxing fan base these fights obviously sell themselves but people are lazy and dont believe in boxing any more... the promoters need to make the casual fan believe in boxing...

and yeah obviously the 24/7's help but they cant do a 24/7 for every single fight..... it would dilute all the other 24/7's you have to save them for the biggest fights of the year

 

The bar is high for every fighter out there. Mexican fighters more so than anything else. I mean look at JMM. How long did it take him to become a star in mexico?

**** IS JMM a star in Mexico yet?

Librado Andrade is more beloved in Canada than Mexico.

It's easier to be a star if you're african american if you market people properly. The problem with that is when you start marketing people TOWARDS certain people they stop becoming....people?

Paul Williams problem is he fights out of nowhere South Carolina (No disrespect to Akon) and has no charisma.

Imagine Paul Williams on something like Jay Leno. He'd be fried.

 

No. Paul Williams is a knockout waiting to happen at MW. KO/TKO over Pavlik? Dream on WWM. Pavlik said he considered dropping his guard and giving Rubio free shots in the 8th round of their fight. He could start the fight with PW doing that. Pavlik can match his work rate and has more power. PW just doesn't have the power to hurt Pavlik.

Paul throws lots of punches, but let's be honest, most of them don't have anything on them. He might get away with this at WW and SW, but he just isn't going to do it at MW. Goosen already dropped the fight with Pavlik. He knew what he was doing.

 

It sounds like some of you guys were expecting PW to knock Winky out which wasnt happening. Bernard nor Taylor did that and "compared" to PW they have alot more power. PW staggered Winky a couple of times, not saying he has great power but its decent.

But back to the thread, I dont think he himself can bring popularity back to American boxing but boxing sure needs more people like him with his crazy workrate and not stop action.

 

the division jumping could gain him plenty of attention (especially if he can start to add some belts to the mix)

but the dude just has no personality/character.

why do you think Winky or Mosley never became big Mega stars?

 

The problem with Paul Williams isn't his fighting style or his lack of charisma. Paul Williams suffers from Goliath Syndrome.The Punisher looks like a bully when he takes on fighters who weigh the same as he does but are about two feet shorter.
In the NBA Shaquille O'Neal was selling his shoes at Payless while Kobe and Labron sell 200 dollar sneakers and are always more popular...No one cheers for Goliath.

 

which is why Paul fighting at 154, 160 and up could benefit him in the long run

he looks absolutely massive at 147. so fighting at the higher weight classes will even it out just a bit.

and for all the c*ap Shaquille got for being so much bigger .. at least he was light hearted about it and had character ... which is why he's so lovable.

**and Kobe or LeBron to my knowledge never had $200 shoes ... the Jordan XVII was the first Jordan sneaker to get a $200 price tag.

 

Paul is a physical talent, but sort of a dim wit. People see that and don't take to him as a "star".