Paul Williams Vs Joe Calzaghe Would Be A lot More Competitive Than Some Of You Think

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  1. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You probably basing your statement on the quintana fight which is completely unfair... yes he lost... he had a terrible day at the office...

    paul will come focused and take floyd to a place he has never been before... paul has ate flush punches against every opponent he has faced so far so i doubt floyd could even stagger him... paul wont respect floyds power and he will just bum rush him with 100's of punches per round... literally.. and its not like floyd will have the advantage on the inside because he probably wont... he's tiny compared to pw and pw can actually fight on the inside.... paul will just throw a bunch of jabs threw floyds defense

    i mean just think how floyd fights... the first couple rounds are to assess his opponent but if he lets paul start getting his confidence up he could be in for a very long night

    yeah thats the true question... how does pauls jaw hold up... i read before that paul has sparred with everyone size wise from welter to heavyweight before he was a professional... i wish i remember where i read/heard it at... it was either hbo ring life ep 1 or a random youtube video... but if paul has experienced punches from heavyweights and managed to keep it together in those situations (which i dont know) he will have no trouble handling a calz punch in my eyes
     
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    FromWithin Living for the city Full Member

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    Quintana schooled PW. How could Joe Calzaghe who is 20 pounds more not do it?
     
  3. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    if paul REALLY focused on it... this would be another fight when he could use his length to his advantage... joe c is 5 11 with a 73 inch reach so paul once again would have the physical advantages..... if paul could pick his spots of fighting & exchanging with joe c... and jus trying to catch him from outside with jabs... it would be very interesting...

    i dont think paul really can flat out KO anyone thats important ... but i think he has enough power & accuracy to wobble his opponents and if you look in the quintana fight & mattysshe fight... he is SPECTACTULAR at closing out.... if he could manage to catch calz flush.... and pour it on... you would be very surprised with the out come

    lol yes

    as we saw against rjj the ropes & calzaghe = bad news.... in all of paul's fights tho i have not once seen him use the ropes so i wouldnt expect it in this fight... it would take all his physical advantages away
    im about to make a thread about this
     
  4. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    Let him fight the best at 160 before putting him against the best at 168.

    Calzaghe LOVES to slug it out, and he will be getting the best out of Williams everytime.
    I'm sorry but this would be a mismatch.
     
  5. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The thing is Calzaghe doesn't allow you to pick his spots. Williams has looked very good against counter punchers who succumb to his pure output and aggression. Take a fighter who throws as much as he does, uses more angles, has much faster hands and is more refined technically. I just don't see Williams pulling it off.
     
  6. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think pretty highly of Williams in a head to head sense but Calzaghe would beat him pretty soundly. His volume and stamina would keep it from being a total washout but Calzaghe utilises angles too well and has the speed of foot and hand to get inside and give Williams hell. Williams punch output and Calzaghe's lack of power would keep it from being a total white wash though.

    Pavlik and Abraham (particularly Abraham) are very realistic fights for Williams. Calzaghe is on a different level to both of them in a p4p ability sense and he is actually larger. Well beyond Williams reach.
     
  7. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    it wouldnt be tho...
    can you paint a scenario how its a mis mactch?

    OH i mean i would definitely favor joe c... but it wouldnt be a 1 sided affair... i think Joe c would have to respect pauls length speed & power in combinations.... he couldnt just lunge in wildly winging punches all over the place.... he woudl have to fight a very technically sound fight and his he would have to be able to beat pw to the punch and display some counter punching abilities.... i just think it would be a great fight and clash of styles
     
  8. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Williams would be able to seriously hurt Joe and Williams would be the recipient of more punches than he has ever eaten from
    any previous fighters he has fought.
     
  9. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    Comon man Calzaghe was fighting at 175, not only he is the bigger, faster, stronger and more skilled fighter, he also loves to fight like Williams.
    I know Williams' win against Winky was impressive but you are really taking it way too far.
     
  10. MexicanJew

    MexicanJew Jajajajajaja Full Member

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    Paul Williams weighed 157 pounds at the way in, did he even need to cut weight?

    Williams walking around weight is not even 168 pounds. Calzaghe would have a 20 lb+ weight advantage.

    Calzaghe also has the edge in the following areas

    -Hand speed
    -Physically stronger
    -Harder punch
    -better footwork
    -More experienced
    -Has an equivalent workrate

    this fight isnt competitive. At a certain point size becomes a factor in boxing, and 168 is too high for Williams. He would be fighting guys stronger and MUCH more physical than him. And Calzaghe is a mother****ing nightmare to fight

    Ask yourself this question

    Would Williams beat Kesseler?

    NO

    Now just picture what Calzaghe would do to him
     
  11. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    your underestimating pauls power.. he has decent power & great speed which makes it dangerous.... he also doesnt fade in his combo's.. so 2 or 3 clean punches can be dangerous

    so paint up a scenario.... i can guarantee you that if pw fought joe c his game plan would not be to hunt him down and throw 1000 punches... he would use his length and which is 10 inches and try to work of joe c's mistakes....

    like i said im not saying paul would dominate pw... im saying that it wouldnt be a one side ass whooping... it would be a competitive fight

    what does kessler have to do with paul williams ? you should know yourself.... fighter a beats fighter b who beats fighter c who beats fighter a.... we saw this earlier this year with cotto beating mosley who beat margarito who beat cotto... the name of the game is matchups...

    i think joe c would try to muscle paul and paul would fight off his back legs using his jab to get advantage of joe c lunging trying to come in and then if he makes it in... paul would trade a little bit with joe c on the inside and then clinch to restart the fight... then he would just continue with the game plan.... your not thinking about this fight interms of matchups...... the only question is would paul be able to handle the size.... i personally dont know but it has been said paul has sparred with heavyweights & cruiserweights before.... i know for a fact george peterson said he has sparred against o neil bell before who was a title holder so i mean paul will be USED to the size but if he can actually HANDLE the size will be the deciding factor
     
  12. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Paul Williams Could Establish his Jab on Joe C and follow it up with combo's... it could be a long night for joe c
     
  13. Arriba

    Arriba Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Isn't that kind of status quo for any fighter?

    I mean if I managed to establish my jab and throw combos against Nicholai Valuev, it'd probably be a long night for him too.

    Isn't the goal of ANY fight to establish a jab and throw combos?
     
  14. MexicanJew

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    The deciding factor is that you are off your ass in believing that this fight would be remotely competitive. Joe C rips Williams apart in a ****ing JOKE of a fight.

    I cant believe Im even arguing this ****. :verysad
     
  15. box3r86

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    Calzaghe threw over 1000 punches at 168 against Kessler who was hitting him back and won some rounds, Williams threw that at 160 against winky who was inactive for a long time and very old. Would PW be able to throw that many at 168 where he never fought and against someone who will throw just as many!??