Paul Williams Vs Joe Calzaghe Would Be A lot More Competitive Than Some Of You Think

haha yes... its obvious but the thing is that... joe c really doesnt like being punched.... i mean it obviously soudns crazy and im sure no boxer likes to be punched ... but what i mean is ...

you have a guy like margarito even paul... who really dont have a problem recieving punches to get off in exchange

joe c REALLY DOESNT LIKE TO GET PUNCHED!... if you hit joe c with good shots it changes his demeanor and his approach....

ok well see... a lot of people were callin me a crazy ******* months ago when i said pavlik vs paul would be the real deal.

alot of people called pacdbest a crazy ******* when he said pacman and floyd was going down to.... so in time we shall see

the fight wouldnt be about activity for paul.... it would be about keeping the jab in joe c's face and keeping his distance.... the game plan would be completely different

 

some of you are forgetting that although joe c is a heavier fighter

paul is naturally bigger

paul = 6'2-6'3 + 82 inches arm length
joe c= 5'11 + 72 inches arm length

he doesn't have murderous knockout power or blinding speed.... he is an intelligent fighter that uses his conditioning and output to his advantage.... joe c has never fought someone with the advantages paul possesses and paul has never fought a guy with some of the advantages Joe C possesses...

 

the fight wouldnt be about activity for paul.... it would be about keeping the jab in joe c's face and keeping his distance.... the game plan would be completely different[/quote]

Ok well at 168 and generally in the boxing world Kessler is considered to have one of the best jabs, he is a conerted southpaw who fights orthodox. His jab couldnt keep JC at bay.

PW is good and did well against an older inactive Winky, but your clutching at straws.

 

Actually JC has fought taller fighters such as mario veit who may not have the boxing ability of PW but does posses bigger height and reach, Veit got KTFO twice.

Oh and Calzaghe is fast, your honestly gonna tell me he has no speed!?atsch

 

yeah but your really going to compare Mikel Kessler And Paul Williams?

Mikel has decent speed, not really fast on his feet, walks you down, relies more on his strength rather then his speed

Paul has above average speed, fast on his feet and bouncy, can walk you down or bounce around....

the fact that kessler was not faster or even AS FAST as joe c... gave joe c the opportunity to dance aroudn some of kesslers punches and be there first when it came down to punching...

i said BLINDING SPEED.. blinding speed is like Roy Jones in his prime or someone like that... joe c is fast but he isnt Quicksilver(fast as ****)... you answered yourself with that one... mario veit cannot box & probably doesnt have the same ability as paul williams.... you need to look at his reach & speed at the same time

 

We were talking about jabs earlier but everytime i mention a different aspect that you counter my point with you mention another one as if pw is superman. Yes i will and have compared kesslers jab and pw's jab, i see no problem there.

How on earth do you know how PW will react to punches at 168 and to guys who throw over 1000 punches and how do you know how PW will look at 168? adding weight always slows fighters down and moving from 147 to 168 will make an immense difference.

ITS EASY TO LOOK QUICK AGAINST AN INACTIVE AND OLD WINKY WRIGHT.

 

I would bet heavily on Calzaghe if this fight took place in a reasonable amount of time (ie. Before Calzaghe turns 45).

 

I only do that because you only look at one object in the picture....

"joe c fought a 6 '3 fighter before..."

my answer to that: does he have pauls speed, does he have pauls footwork, does he have pauls length... you have to look at the total picture


what i highlighted is the only question we have no insight to yet... it has been stated that paul has sparred against heavy&cruiserweights before.... so like i said before.... if he held his own against there power (which i dont know) he could hold up against most peoples power

but come on man... its not like all the sudden paul just gained speed... your born with speed.... he alway had it but people never paid him any attention until the winky fight... i was always saying paul was fast and everyone disagreed with me.... because he never did it against a relevant opponent


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i think your missing me here tho.... i said it would be competitive... i didnt say whether i thought pw would win or not.... i just highly doubt it would be a one sided destruction some are claiming it to be

 

funny that some think williams will give Joe C TROUBLE but Dawson wont.....very interesting

 

The only thing I see as comparable is the high output rate and that does not mean an action packed fight. Joe C is the aggressor and he comes whirlwinding a whole lot of powerpunches whereas Paul is more of the slick southpaw who throws many punches in combinations a time and explores angles endless times. I would see Paul W having serious problems letting his hands go and rotating his body to throw as many with that amount of weight on. Look how loose he was against Winky and that's why he won-cause he threw more-put em again at 170 or 168 and Winky takes it!

 

I think yes he could compete at 168 as he is extremely big, but as you are saying he has sparred with bigger guys, and his height and reach are so great and he would retain speed etc etc, i will say quintana cut him and bruised up his face, i saw his post fight interview and the state of his face.

Thats a fact we do know, and you are putting him in a theoretical ring with the best 168lbr to date. And so i will say he would be out of his depth and the further along the fight went he would be out of his depth.

 

i give joe c the advantage... but i dont think joe c would blow him out.... thats all im saying... it would be a close fight... decided by 4 rounds... more or less

 

You can say PW doesn't mind getting punched to get his own shots off as much as you like, but as soon as he tastes some LHW punches, he's going to get gun shy.

 

"You get your best training and quality sparring in D.C. We always wind up going there. Paul's been in the ring with 10 world champions. He worked with Joppy, Travis Simms, he worked with O'Neil Bell, he worked with Robert Allen, he worked with Collazo, he worked with Lou Del Valle, Glen Johnson. He worked with, shooks, how many do you have there? I'm going to name them all, it's been 10 of them. He even worked with Tony Thompson, that's a heavyweight, and Teddy Reid.

- george peterson about who paul williams has sparred with

yeah but joe c isnt particularly heavy handed

 

walk with me,

I will tell you this. I completely underestimated Paul on Saturday. He came in the bigger, stronger, faster man. He had a solid game plan, and didn't let Winky get off in the inside where it was the only place Winky would have a chance. He bullied Winky around, not the other way around.

His defense improved his speed was far improved from what I've seen when he fought Quintanta. He looked like a brand new man. I think this fight could be competitive too.

I don't get why people are still hating on Paul, saying Winky was shot this and that. I don't give a damn if Winky was shot, a prime Winky probably would have lost too. Winky doesn't have the power to gain Paul's respect and while he would probably open up more if he was younger and the legs to move away from Paul, Paul put up an excellent performance and I think he could have won in Winky's prime.

That's saying a lot.