freddy roach said himself oscar was dead in the ring

Sure, that would be reasonable... as long as you're a **** and have never seen ODLH fight before.

 

Hold on. Let me put my drink down.

You think Pacquiao beats Oscar...prime for prime? :-((

 

Yeah. And then he beats up Tito Trinidad and Shane Mosley as a cooldown at the afterfight party.

 

:rofl:rofl And KOs a Ferocious Vargas on steroids!

 

:-( You tend to forget that a prime Manny Pacquiao was out boxed by a shot Erik Morales, and a Prime De La Hoya beat guys like Mayorga, Vargas, Quartey, Whitaker, Stopped Chavez twice, and his list of solid wins goes on.

Sorry but a prime Pacquiao vs a Prime Oscar, Manny gets his ass handed to him.

 

It was only now that I realized PHILLA is in the same vein as Enzo and Harrison. Big shame, he is knowledgeable when you discuss anybody but Manny Pacquiao. I think to say Manny would beat a prime Oscar at 147lb is to stupid, and it's utterly embarassing for him that all of his fellow posters will witness his post. :verysad

 

Give him a pass, he is buying into the hype, He hasnt really looked at Pacquiaos career from an objective stand point its hard to especially when you see him dominate and steem roll these guys.

But the truth is, Pacquiao has faced some big bangers Marquez, DLH, Barrera, and Morales, of which DLH Morales and MAB were shot, Oscar weight drained roach said so on 24/7
However the Marquez fights some argue JMM won~ and in terms of total Rounds he did win more rounds.
He went the distance with David Diaz which is not a big deal. and now he is fighting Ricky Hatton at 140 while Hatton has one loss and that was at the hands of Mayweather at 147 not a bad loss, Hatton is now back at his best fighting weight 140 still in his prime, Pacquiao has got his hands full here, and I lean towards Hatton in this fight becuase Pacquiao hasnt had to deal with a heavy hitter at a higher weight hitting him back Hatton will hit him back

 

p4p #3 MAB coming off wins Morales & Hamed was shot? Went the distance with David Diaz? Morales giving Pac a war and beating him 9 months before shot

Some of your arguments are no better than those of huggers. Swings both ways.

 

A 35yr old DLH or the DLH that PBF fought isnt much better if any than Hatton prime at 140lb. This is proven by PBF who struggled with both fighters, infact outside the scorecard, Hatton seemed the otugher challenger and PBF would say so himself. Of Pac can dominate Hatton the way he did Oscar, it proves one thing, its not because Pac's opponent is that bad that he looks that good, he is just that damm good. Anyways I know you're a hater, i've seen your posts on pac so dont waste your breath. :hi:

 

He fought Hamed a couple of years before he first met Manny, also had the rematch with Erik one year prior to but look at the over all record, he had two wars with Junior Jones had a war with McKenny, had been through some seriously hard fights, hard enough in which you can argue MAB was not prime any longer.

The same can be said about Morales, he and Barrera took every last ounce of what each guy had left. Sorry I know it doesnt suit your agenda for me to say this but its the truth.

and the only reason Morales won the first fight with Manny was the distractions he had going on in the gym and with his promoter leading up to that fight, lets not also forget about his winnings glove issue, there was alot of inside **** that gave Erik the perfect opportunity to shine one last time.

Both Barrera and Morales went to war with each other for 36 rounds, and both guys have had some hard fights before and in between, I know you want me to say these guys were on top of their game, and in terms of their rank and status yes but that is on paper in reality they were ripe for the pickings.

 

Qualitypost.

People who haven't even seen Barrera fight before 2000 think they have the right to say he hadn't slipped. I give Pacquiao full credit for the first win - you have too. The guy moved up, and Marco was the best 126lb fighter in the world at the time. Quality win. But, you do have to say well he hadn't had a competitive fight since 2002 in a fight many thought he lost, and did he really look like Marco on the night? Not really. But none of this matters, but when you speak of Marquez too Manny it's all about, "SOCKSS!"

 

I was in Wildcard for that fight, it was more than Socks the mans promoter was trying to bull dog Manny, and to be honest Freddy exposed Murad Muhammad cus they were stealing most of Pacquiaos earnings. it was a ****ing mess, then you had hundreds of fans checking in to see Manny he wasnt focused, which is why Freddy after the fight started to close the gym down while Manny was training there.

But the truth is, when your a champion you have to prepair like one, its your job so the fault is Mannys, he is the one who took time to speak to his fans sign gloves take pics etc...

 

He does it for every fight, no excuse.

He drew with Marquez because he was up against a technically superior technician, who he caught cold in the opening round.

 

Is this an attempt to make Pacquiao's win look bad?

Sorry but nearly the entire boxing world were laughing at Pac and calling him greedy because they all thought he'll collect his paycheck and get KO'd within a round or two.

Respect the fact that Pac did to DLH what no one and not even close expected. :deal

 

Well, it is pretty much guaranteed to take those pounds off something fierce.

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