The Reasons Why Calzaghe never faced a top fighter.

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  1. treva1977

    treva1977 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    kingkrish is a dick.full stop.
     
  2. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem is many Americans think we are the center of the world and you have to fight in the USA to be good. Many are on denial. The fact is not everybody needs or want to come to the USA. GO travel!!!! Check other countries out!!! You could be surprised!!
     
  3. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    This is quite subjective as the vast majority of Joes career was spent beating up tin cans. When it mattered most those marquee names were simply too old. He's career ledger when all is said and done with be heavily scrutinized as when those fights should have happened they simply did not and most of the time Joe was the reason for that. He was making easy money in Wales off the WBO. Why break that tradition?
     
  4. 46and0

    46and0 It's irrefutable. Full Member

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    "Calzaghe can't punch."

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  5. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    ...because it took him 15 years as a pro before he actually grew a pair.
     
  6. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    If Hopkins was green when he fought Jones what was he when he fought Joe bearing in mind he is/was 44 years of age? And how can you casually dismiss Jones shutout over Ruiz when this feat hadn't been duplicated in over a 100 years at that time? Holyfield went life and death with Ruiz. Johnson also lost via DQ to Ruiz in another not so memorable tussle and 200lbs worth of RJJ went up in weight and defeated him soundly. That victory alone was far more punctuated than ANYTHING on Joes career ledger. Jones was in the top 10 P4P for a decade for a reason and it wasn't just because of he's talent. If you'd seen a prime RJJ you wouldn't write such a backwards post.
     
  7. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Joe had no interest in going to America. The only reason why he ended up there is because of the money dangled in front of him. He was more than happy to make umpteen defenses of the WBO in Wales.
     
  8. This is an interesting topic and it's about time somebody brought it up.
     
  9. ekar

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    The problem with Cal is he never had the fight where he was an underdog. People tought Lacy would beat him which only because he Joe was underrated and people only saw a protected fighter. Good post. But I do think Joe is a great fighter who had a potential to be even more.
     
  10. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dont hate on the man because he's big enough to call a spade a spade isn't just defending his national pride for the sake of it. which is what a lot of people do.
     
  11. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he did have the potential to be even more, i agree.

    but if you never choose to test yourself against top fighters in their prime (and you're as skilled as calzaghe is himself) then of course he'll never be the underdog.

    how many frank warren fights can you name where his fighter fought a top fighter in their prime and was the underdog?
     
  12. scurlaruntings

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    No one expected Lacy to be beat that bad but by the same token there was no way a guy like Lacy was ever going to beat a seasoned vet like Joe. Lacy was essentially gifted a vacant belt and struggled with journeymen like Vanderpool Sheika and Williams. He had only one dimension and to be frank even that he wasnt very good at. That being said that fight had similar dimensions to Reid vs Tito in that it was simply too much way too soon.Joe had no interest in the IBF title or unifying and only did it because it was his biggest pay day to date. Joe was an incredibly protected fighter who was a classic right time right place guy. He did what was best for his pocket not what was best for the good of the sport that made him a millionaire many times over.
     
  13. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    excellent post.
     
  14. ekar

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    To be honest the only fight I give him crdit for taking a big risk is the Kessler fight. I never liked Lacy and alway tought he was overated since the sheka fight. Hopkins was a good win but calculated cause at 44 really didn't seem to have the tools anymore to beat a workhourse like Joe. He should have fought Pavlick and Dawson. Pavlick would have been an easy win. I tought a Dawson win would be his best name on his resume. Dawson has wins over Adamek, tarver and Johnson, which is way better then anyone Kessler fought.
     
  15. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    calzaghe never faced a top fighter? what? so kessler was a nobody (who beata andrade convincingly), i guess bika was a nobody, hops was a nobody, man just get outta here.