Who do you rate higher: De La Hoya, Mosley or Trinidad?

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  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    It makes perfect sense if you understand the difference between a meaningless loss, and a meaningful win.

    If Oscar had beaten Floyd, it would have been a fantastic win. But the facts are that Oscar was a decade past prime and he was fighting the Pound-for-Pound King.

    It would have been a great win, but as things stand, given the context and the circumstances, it was simply a meaningless loss.

    What does an old and inactive fighter actually have to lose going in against the P4P King?
    Nothing, there is no meaning or signifigance attached to the defeat, because he simply has nothing to lose.
     
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  2. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    ALL well stated but you forgot to put how many wins oes DLH have against p4p and champs, also how he lost to Trindad and Mosley
     
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  3. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Do you not understand the difference between "losing" to someone, and "not getting the decision" against them?

    Oscar beat Trinidad, and he beat Mosley in the 2nd fight.

    I suppose you think that Lewis didn't beat Holyfield in their first fight either.
     
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  4. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He beat Tito and won the second Mosley fight..don't believe everything you read..
     
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  5. Rumsfeld

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    Mosley, Trinidad, Oscar, in that order.

    :smoke
     
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  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    He may have deserved the win against Tito, but Mosley won the rematch.

    :smoke
     
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  7. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Well then you must've forgot he lost to Quartey, Strum and Whitaker. so he would have 7 losses if we trade!! HAHA
     
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  8. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    And give him back the one against Mayweather.
     
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  9. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    YEAH RIGHT!! Stevie Wonder had that fight 8-4 Mayweather
     
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  10. EL-MATADOR

    EL-MATADOR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  11. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    He beat Quartey - close but clearly. Definetly lost to Sturm though. I thought Oscar did enough to win the fight against Whitaker - who himself didn't quite do enough to deserve the victory.

    So, Lewis-Holyfield 1, who do you think won?
     
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  12. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    :good
     
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  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    at their best i would go with oscar then mosely and then tito. longevity, mosely. did the most with the least, tito.
     
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  14. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    In his "controversial" close fights, I had De La Hoya beating Quartey & Trinidad, but I had him losing to Sweet Pea, Sturm, and Mosley II.

    :smoke
     
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  15. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    that was the biggest robbery everwith that Lewis-Holyfield fight. Clearly beat Quartey?? I thought Quarty clearly beat DLH. you can tell by the anoucing when it was the 12th round, "DLH needs a KO for this one" Hey its all good I dont Hate DLH. I just think he wasnt that good, but im happy hes retiring in peace
     
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