Frazier reflects on Thrilla, Ali

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    yeh Dunne deserves respect fighting the best heavyweight eve IMO and trying to win

    yeh London, Dunne were nowhere near Alis level but they gave it a shot same with Cooper

    Bruno had a glass chin so cant really do much about that but he operated at a good level won a title

    Lennox says hes british so hes british and he is arguably the best heavy since Ali
     
  2. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    good story
     
  3. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    cheers

    would call it a story more a sentance
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Tunney said Dempsey was in much better shape for their second fight,because he had the advantage of that fight with Sharkey.Dempsey was not old ,he had just grown soft through high living and INACTIVITY.
    Ali lost his prime years during his exile.He was never as fast as he was prior to his exile.
     
  5. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Wow! Ali actually predicted the round he could beat Richard Dunn in and got it right. Amazing. :lol:
     
  6. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Yes, he does. He did compete to win but he was comfortably one of the least deserving challengers of all-time. Bugner wiped him out with ease and it tells volumes about Dunn's ability that Bugner even thought he could destory him that quickly.
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    yeh but he made the most of himself and he was european champ
     
  8. My dinner with Conteh

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    He did, such is the world of dodgy rankings. He should never have received a tilt at the vacant title (Brnd August) even less so. He did make the most of his limited skills, so fair play, but he'd only ever have been Euro champ the way he did- fighting for a vacant title against no-mark whose ranking was achieved with the right contacts. I have the full story behind it somewhere, I'll look it up again.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    ok thanks
     
  10. mcvey

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    It is what it is, a snippet of information that seems to have been of interest to some.
     
  11. My dinner with Conteh

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    It is a good story mate and one i've heard before but let's not forget who he was fighting. Dunn shouldn't have been anywhere near a world title shot.
     
  12. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I agree, at least Ali should've let Dunn and Evangelista fight in a title eliminator. :dead
     
  13. mcvey

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    That would hold true for many fighters ,how far should we go back?
    Munroe,Finnegan,London,Coopman,Roper, some of Holmes defences? Scott Frank!
     
  14. My dinner with Conteh

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    You can go back as long as you want, there isn't a ban on talking about challengers who didn't merit a title shot. Indeed, in the same decade the likes of Kevin Finnegan, Willie Monroe and Bobby Watts didn't receive a shot at Monzon (not through ducking I hasten to add) and they were a far higher calibre than Dunn.
     
  15. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    You can go back as long as you want, there isn't a ban on talking about challengers who didn't merit a title shot ;). Indeed, the same era saw the likes of Kevin Finnegan, Willie Monroe and Bobby Watts fail to receive a shot at Monzon (not through ducking I hasten to add) and they were a far higher calibre than Dunn.