How does Wlad compete with this?

He didn't refuse. Who was available to fight? Valuev had mandatories, Chagaev was injured, Gomez was fighting Virchis, hardly anybody was available.

Erm, where did I ever say anything about Haye out-jabbing Wlad? Enlighten me, where in these 8 pages did I ever say anything about that? No, I didn't. I said skip to 5:10 of the Mac fight and watch what can happen if you allow Haye to time your jab. And if you watch that, incase you didn't know, that's called an overhand right, not a jab.

Watch the fight again. Barrett never made any contact with Haye whatsoever, and then jumped him he was on the floor. Don't give me this bollocks about Barrett slipped either, Haye nailed him 5 times, twice in 2nd round with a left hook and then a right hand, twice in 4th, again a left hook and then right uppercut, and then the combination in the 5th that finished it. 5 clean knock downs.

I give Haye a far greater chance against Vitali than I do against Wlad. At least Wlad doesn't leave his chin hanging out with his mouth open gasping for air after 3 rounds. Time and age is catching up with Vitali, he's slow, immobile and has issues. His timing is also woeful, against Gomez he couldn't land anything really other than the jab for the first 5 or 6 rounds because he couldn't time Gomez with the right.

I promise you? Who do you think you are some guy with inside knowledge? For your information, Haye is contractually obliged to fight Vitali, should he first get past Wlad and then beat him again in a rematch. Haye wants Vitali, that there's no doubt. He's never ducked anybody in his life.

Again, let above, do you seem to think your a guy with some inside knowledge on Haye and what he's thinking. Haye has never ducked anybody in his life and always turns up to fight. For a guy that takes on the unified champion in his own backyard, that takes on a big punching, confident domestic rival when he didn't need to, that took on guys like Williams and Thompson so early on in his career, do you think he's going to turn up to get knocked out and collect his paycheck? If that's what you think, your badly mistaken, and that would be an awful mentality to have. Don't expect an easy night. Haye has EVERYTHING he needs to trouble Wlad, and he'll come to fight that I can promise you.

What has height got to do with it? You think just because all those guys are 6'6" they are somehow better than Haye? He ain't no Ray ****ing Austin. Do those guys have the speed of Haye? The determination? The mobility? The power? Have any of those guys cleared out a division and become undisputed? Are/were any of those guys arguably top 20 P4P?

Yes, I'm aware he get knocked down by Mock, what was that though like his 6th professional fight? Do you want me to bring up Ross Purrity again? Anybody can get put down by a punch that lands bang on your temple. What's important is Haye got up and knocked the tough Mock the **** out. Something Wlad didn't do against Purrity.

 

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMXaNd9InlQ[/url]

Haye vs Lolenga Mock

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZwISP_YBwM&feature=related[/url]

Haye vs Phil Day

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhWh3tN5s4M[/url]

Haye vs Carl Thompson

I love how the Wlad fans only solace is bringing up the Mock fight, which was like his 6th professional fight, despite the fact he got up and knocked him out.

Is that the hope you are clinging to Bitchschko huggers?

 

I think Wlad's 6'6½ personally.