Frazier reflects on Thrilla, Ali

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    How about a round robin ,with Stander and Daniels:yep
     
  2. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Ron "The Butcher" Stander TKO11 Alfredo Evangelista


    :yep
     
  3. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Never happened ,but here is one that did
    Alfredo Evangelista v Terry Daniels .Winner Evangelista by 2 rd ko.
    Difference between Evangelista and Stander and Daniels?
    Evangelista was rated in the Ring top 10 for three straight years ,either no 7 or number 8.Stander and Daniels were NEVER rated.
    Pot Kettle?:lol:
     
  4. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    You're talking about a fight where Daniels was on something like a 4-20 losing streak and had been retired for 3 years. Prime for prime, Terry eats Alfredo!
     
  5. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    As for pot kettle, i never said Frazier didn't fight undeserving challengers, so watch your words old man!
     
  6. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Don't be silly, Daniels never beat a rated fighter was stopped 13times!
    Twice by Light heavys! He lost 30 out of 66 fights.
    Evangelista was a European Champion beat Renaldo Snipes and Lorenzo Zanon [ko2 rds],and had a record of 61 wins from 78 fights.
    Along with Jack Finnegan, Daniels must be a contender for the worst challenger ever to fight for the heavyweight title.
     
  7. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Well, i can't say you're not trying. I was just having a go. What do you think of my new avatar?
     
  8. mcvey

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    Very topical!
    ps give me your predictions for the Haye Wlad ,and Hatton Pac man fights please CP.
    ps You used a capital I there ,delusions of granduer?:lol:
     
  9. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Haye TKO4 Wlad: i'm going for the upset, because Wlad is slowing down physically and Haye has exactly the tools (great speed & power) to pull a Sanders on him. However David is a bit predictable in his combinations (jab-right-hook), so if that or his countering is not effective immediately, then he's toast because he's not going to take Wlad's best shot. In every fight the last few years, Wlad started by feeling out his opponent. It worked like a charm, but it may backfire against a quick starter like Haye.


    As for the other one, i'm picking Pac to beat Hatton in a close fight. I think Pac's speed and workrate will make the difference, though it's interesting to see him deal with Hatton's aggression and size.


    By the way, how long does one have to go back to have two Brits fight in both of the biggest upcoming boxing blockbusters?


    I always get delusions of grandeur when talking to you, though in this case i made it a capital because it was the start of a sentence. ;)
     
  10. flamengo

    flamengo Coool as a Cucumber. Full Member

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    Pontius... Hate vs Wlad is not a BLOCKBUSTER. Its a MUPPET SHOW.

    You're right though. There are two coming BlockBusters..

    Pac-Hatton. Hatton wins by TKO 5.

    Mundine-Geale. Mundine wins by KO3
     
  11. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    The 1st fight was bigger but the 3rd fight was a better fight.
     
  12. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Nah, close fight, soundly my ass.
     
  13. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    You dont think so ?

    If you take the 71 Ali out & replace him with the 66/67 Ali, you DONT SERIOUSLY think Ali could have outpointed Joe ?

    I dont believe you, honestly, I really dont see how you could expect Frazier to beat that version of Muhammad Ali, your pulling my dick, right ?
     
  14. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Whats wrong with you people, Frazier hits harder & is different to Chuvalo, Ali aint gonna put in a mirror image performance vs Frazier, hell, if he fought Chuvalo 5 months later the fight would have likely been completely different.
    Ali GAVE Chuvalo every chance he got & George STILL took no more than 2 rds out of 15.
    If thats Frazier`s blueprint to beat Ali... my hard earned is on Ali & loads of it.
     
  15. groove

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    i agree this forum gets funnier everyday. on another thread they're saying foreman's power is the most overrated ever :lol: