When, if ever has Pacquiao beaten a top fighter in their prime convincingly?

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  1. pare

    pare Active Member Full Member

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    Are you the same ****** who kept mentioning In Jin Chi in the other Pac thread?

    Is he giving you great butt****s or something?
     
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  2. pare

    pare Active Member Full Member

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    kostya tszyu was shot.

    the **** this has got to do with this thread is that practically NOBODY has ever convincingly beat a top fighter in their prime.

    look at the great muhammad ali:
    sonny liston - way past his prime, on drugs, under threat from NOI/mafia
    the big cat - still had a ****ing bullet in his ribs
    joe frazier - way past his prime, after FOC and numerous wars
    george foreman - spooked to the point of paranoia by africa and mobutu, was not training right, may have been drugged
    ken norton - lost all 3 fights
    ron lyle - not elite
    earnie shavers - not elite

    see how easy it is to **** on anybody's resume?
     
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  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    did you know that after Pacquiao beat Barrera the Pacquiao camp lobbied the WBC to be instated as mandatory challenger to the rematch between In Jin Chi and Michael Brodie and the WBC agreed, but after that the Marquez camp offered Pacman a career high payday so he went with that.
     
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  4. PirateGorilla

    PirateGorilla Active Member Full Member

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    It's useless man.
     
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  5. PirateGorilla

    PirateGorilla Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah, but he is talking about a "prime" fighter.
     
    PirateGorilla, Apr 17, 2009
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  6. pare

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    to continue, let's look at sugar ray leonard:
    tommy hearns - overtrained and weight-drained; plus manny steward admitted to being nervous about this being his first big fight

    duran II - unmotivated, partying not training was the first priority, a natural lightweight, ate 20kg of steak 2 minutes before the fight

    hagler - fading after 60+ fights including 2 straight all-time wars against hearns and mugabi, and many thought hagler won

    benitez - never that dedicated, clearly got the worst of the headbutt

    ****, we should start a "Let's **** on everybody's resume" thread!
     
    pare, Apr 17, 2009
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  7. FINITO

    FINITO Boxing Junkie banned

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    Never
     
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  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Jeff M is doing nothing but trolling in this thread. I mean, really, is this thread supoposed to be the topic of a legit discussion? A loaded question aimed towards a group he hates? Please... He does this garbarge all the time...
     
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  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Did Manny beat an A game, physically prime Marco? **** NO.

    But you have to consider him prime because he went on to give one last great performance against Morales.

    Just Barrera. Nobody else.
     
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  10. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    No, just in this thread. I've questioned and looked at other fighter's resume (including some of my favorites) and standing all time without any intent to degrade the fighter, and I'm not doing that now though some people always have to suggest my intent is to degrade Pac-Man because I suppose they don't want to use their brains or something.
     
    Jeff M, Apr 17, 2009
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  11. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    I do not recall Pac fighting anyone with that name.
     
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  12. FINITO

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    It's amazing how one man ( Jeff ) can own a handful of *******s..
     
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  13. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Any resume can be questioned of course but what's wrong with discussing them.

    As for the other comments, they had nothing to this discussion.
     
    Jeff M, Apr 17, 2009
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  14. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    I though I said top fighters, not elite, but just true world class fighters.
     
    Jeff M, Apr 17, 2009
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  15. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Beating Hatton won't make Pac top 25 all time. Not yet, he'll have to do a little more.

    Calzaghe's not a fraud but he should have fought a couple more fights against top fighters to truly make his legacy. He's obviously shown the ability to do so.
     
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